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Bava Kama 62
BAVA KAMA 62 (Yom Kipur) - Dedicated by Rabbi and Mrs. Kornfeld in honor of
the Bat Mitzvah of their daughter, Malkie. May she grow in Yir'as Shamayim
and follow in the ways of her illustrious grandparents and ancestors!
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1) IS ONE BELIEVED ABOUT WHAT HE LOST?
(a) (Rava): Reuven gave Leah a gold coin; he told her to be
careful with it, for it is silver. If she damaged it, she
pays its full value, for she had no right to damage it;
1. If she was negligent and it was damaged, she pays
for silver - she can say, I only accepted to guard a
silver coin.
(b) (Rav Mordechai): We can derive that from the Beraisa!
1. If Shimon piled up wheat and covered it with barley
or vice-versa - Reuven pays for barley.
2. This is because Reuven only accepted to guard
barley; likewise, Leah only accepted to guard
silver!
(c) (Rav): I heard something according to R. Yehudah in our
Mishnah - I do not know what it was.
(d) (Shmuel): They made an enactment as by the victim of
thievery (that he swears how much was taken and collects
- similarly, one whose stack was burned can swear what
was inside, and collects).
(e) Question (Ameimar): Did they make an enactment (as by the
victim of thievery) regarding one who informs to the
government to take another's property?
1. According to the opinion that we exempt one who
causes damage (in the way called 'Garmi'), surely,
this is also exempt;
2. The question is according to the opinion that one
who causes damage (Garmi) is liable.
3. The one informed on - can he swear what was taken
from him and collect?
i. This question is unresolved.
(f) Reuven kicked Shimon's money-chest, knocking it into the
river; Shimon claimed that a certain sum was inside.
1. Rav Ashi: How do we rule?
2. Ravina: We learn from our Mishnah - Chachamim admit
to R. Yehudah that one who burns a building pays for
everything inside, for people normally put things in
houses.
3. Rav Ashi: If he claims money, we indeed learn from
the Mishnah;
i. The case is, he claimed a precious stone - is
it normal to put such stones in a money-chest?
ii. This question is unresolved.
(g) Question (Rav Yemar): If he claims that he had a silver
chair in a building - what is the law?
(h) Answer (Rav Ashi): If he is a man that we would expect to
have such a chair - either he is wealthy, or trustworthy
enough that people would deposit such a chair by him - he
swears and collects; if not, he is not believed.
(i) Question (Rav Ada brei d'Rav Avya): What is the
difference between a robber and an extortionist?
(j) Answer (Rav Ashi): A robber doesn't pay for what he takes
(but an extortionist does).
(k) Question (Rav Ada brei d'Rav Avya): Do you call one who
pays money an extortionist?!
1. (Rav Huna): Reuven hung Shimon until Shimon agreed
to sell his field - the sale is valid.
(l) Answer (Rav Ashi): The sale is valid if Shimon said 'I
want to sell it'; if not, it is invalid (and Reuven is an
extortionist).
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2) A FLAME FROM A STORE
(a) (Mishnah): A spark flew out from a man's hammer and
damaged - he is liable;
(b) Reuven's camel, laden with flax, was walking in a public
domain; the flax entered Shimon's store, caught fire from
Shimon's lamp, and burned the building - Reuven is
liable;
1. If Shimon left his lamp outside, he is liable.
2. R. Yehudah says, if it was lit for the Mitzvah of
Chanukah, he is exempt.
(c) (Gemara - Ravina): From R. Yehudah, we learn that the
lights for Chanukah must be placed within 10 Tefachim of
the ground.
1. If it was permitted to place them higher - why is
Shimon exempt, he should have put it higher than a
camel and its rider, to avoid damage!
2. It must be, the Mitzvah (l'Chatchilah) is to put it
within 10.
(d) Rejection: Really, l'Chatchilah one may put them above 10
Tefachim;
1. Since he is doing a Mitzvah, Chachamim did not
bother him to place it so high.
(e) (Rav Kahana): If the lights of Chanukah were placed above
20 Amos, this does not fulfill the Mitzvah, just as a
Sukah or (beam to permit carrying in an) alleyway more
than 20 Amos high is invalid.
***** PEREK MERUBAH ****
3) THE DOUBLE PAYMENT OF A THIEF
(a) (Mishnah): The double payment of a thief applies in more
cases than the payment of 4 and 5:
1. The double payment applies to living and inanimate
things, the payment of 4 and 5 only applies to an ox
or Seh (goat or sheep) - "When a man will steal an
ox or Seh and slaughter or sell it..."
(b) One who steals from a thief does not pay double; if he
then slaughters or sells it, he does not pay 4 and 5.
(c) (Gemara) [Version #1: The Mishnah does not say that the
double payment also applies by a watchman who claims that
the item was stolen, whereas 4 and 5 only applies by a
real thief; this supports R. Chiya bar Aba.
1. (R. Chiya bar Aba): A watchman who claims that the
item was stolen pays double; if he slaughtered or
sold it, he pays 4 and 5.]
(d) [Version #2 - Suggestion: The Mishnah supports R. Chiya
bar Aba.
1. (R. Chiya bar Aba): A watchman who claims that the
item was stolen pays double; if he slaughtered or
sold it, he pays 4 and 5.
(e) Rejection: The Mishnah does not say these are the only
differences - there are differences that were not
taught.]
(f) (Mishnah): The double payment applies...
(g) Question: From where do we know this?
(h) Answer (Beraisa): "For any transgression" - this is a
generality; "for an ox, donkey, Seh or garment" - this is
a specific; "for any lost object" - generality;
1. A generality, specific, generality teaches
everything similar to the specific - something
movable that has intrinsic value;
i. This excludes land, slaves (which are equated
to land), and documents (their value is not
intrinsic).
ii. Hekdesh is excluded - the verse says "His
fellowman".
(i) Question: We should say, the specific is something whose
carcass imparts Tum'ah through touching or moving, and
only include such things!
1. Question: How can one say that - 1 of the specifics
is a garment!
2. Answer: Among the living things, we should only
include such animals, for each specific is
expounded as a separate generality, specific,
generality;
i. We would not include birds, whose carcasses do
not impart Tum'ah through touching or moving.
(j) Answer #1: If so, the Torah should only have written 1
specific.
(k) Question: Which 1 should it have written?
1. Had it written only "ox" - one might have thought,
we only include animals that are offered on the
Altar!
2. Had it written only "donkey" - one might have
thought, we only include animals whose firstborn
have Kedushah!
(l) Answer #2: Rather, the Torah should only have written 'ox
and donkey'; "Seh" is extra to include birds.
(m) Suggestion: We should say, it only includes Tahor birds -
they are more similar to a Seh, their carcasses also
impart Tum'ah (and even make Tamei the clothes of one who
eats them);
1. Tamei birds do not impart Tum'ah at all!
(n) Answer #3: "All" is an inclusion (to include all birds).
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