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Shevuos 12
1) DOES "HEKDESH" BUY ON CONDITION?
(a) Question: Do we find Chachamim that argue with R. Shimon
(and say that Hekdesh purchases on condition)?
1. Suggestion: Yes - Chachamim (Daf 10B) permit
redeeming the extra incense and giving it to the
workers.
2. Rejection: Incense never becomes blemished,
therefore they must stipulate, so it may be
redeemed;
i. We have no source that they stipulate to permit
redeeming an unblemished animal, we could wait
until it gets a blemish!
(b) Answer #1: Yes - Chachamim (11B) permit redeeming an
unblemished red heifer.
(c) Rejection: Perhaps only there they stipulate, because it
is very expensive.
(d) Answer #2: Yes - Rabanan asked R. Shimon why he permits
using goats of Rosh Chodesh for Yom Kipur (they also
permit, but for a different reason).
(e) Rejection: Granted, if Rabanan hold like R. Yehudah (that
the goats atone for different things), they must hold
that Hekdesh purchases on condition;
1. But perhaps Rabanan hold like R. Meir, that all the
goats atone for the same thing!
(f) Answer #3: R. Yochanan had a tradition that Chachamim say
that Hekdesh buys on condition, and (Tosfos - he derived
from our Mishnah) that R. Shimon argues.
2) WHAT WE DO WITH THE EXTRA SACRIFICES
(a) Question: According to R. Shimon, what do we do with the
extra lambs for the Tamid?
(b) Answer (R. Yitzchak): They are brought as Nedavah
(communal Olah offerings when the Altar is idle).
(c) (Rav Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): R. Shimon admits that
extra communal Chatas goats are not themselves brought as
Nedavah,
1. Rather, they are left to graze until they become
blemished; they are redeemed, and the money goes to
Nedavah.
2. R. Shimon only permits using the same animal when it
was originally an Olah as well (e.g. the Tamid);
3. But if it was originally a Chatas, the same animal
is not offered as Nedavah;
i. This is a decree, lest it be brought before the
replacement for the Chatas is offered (and then
it is still a Chatas, it is not a valid Olah).
(d) Support #1 (Abaye - Mishnah - R. Yehudah): If the (inner)
bull or goat of Yom Kipur was lost, and another was taken
in its place and the lost animal was found, we leave it
to die;
1. The same applies to goats brought for idolatry.
2. R. Elazar and R. Shimon say, it is left to graze
(until it gets a blemish; it is redeemed), the money
goes to Nedavah, because the congregation's Chatas
is never left to die.
3. Question: Why can't the found animal itself be
offered?
4. Answer: This is a decree, lest it be brought before
the replacement is offered.
(e) Support #2 (Rava - Mishnah): If (after the lottery to
determine which goat is offered to Hash-m and which is
sent, one of them dies, we take two other goats and do
another lottery;
1. One new goat will replace the dead goat; the other
grazes until it gets a blemish, the money goes to
Nedavah
2. Question: Why can't the goat itself be offered?
3. Answer: This is a decree, lest it be brought before
the original goat is offered.
(f) Support #3 (Ravina - Mishnah): Reuven separated an Asham
(guilt-offering); he died, or he lost it and offered a
different animal and then found the first one - the
(unneeded) Asham grazes until it gets a blemish, the
money goes to Nedavah;
1. R. Eliezer says, we leave the Asham to die;
2. R. Yehoshua says, Reuven (or his heir, if he died)
uses its money to buy an Olah and brings it.
3. Question: Why can't the animal itself be offered as
an Olah?
4. Answer: This is a decree, lest it be brought before
the replacement is offered.
(g) Support (Beraisa): Extra (Chatas) offerings that are not
needed are brought as Kitz for the Altar, like Benos
Shu'ach (a type of fig).
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(h) Question: "...V'Chol Devash Lo Saktiru...la'Shem" (we
cannot offer fruit on the Altar)!
(i) Answer (Rav Chanina): The Beraisa means, it is *like*
figs for a person (i.e. as a dessert).
(j) (Rav Nachman bar Rav Chisda): We do not offer birds as
Kitz for the Altar.
(k) Rejection (Rava): This is wrong!
(l) Objection (Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak): What is wrong with
it?
1. (Rav Simi of Nehardai): Extra sacrifices are used
for Nedavah of the congregation; the congregation
does not bring birds as Olos.
(m) Version #1 (Rashi): Shmuel holds like R. Yochanan (that
R. Shimon holds that extra lambs designated for the Tamid
are brought as Olos Nedavah).
1. (Shmuel): Communal sacrifices may be slaughtered for
something slightly different than their original
designation, as long as it is similar.
2. Support (Beraisa): R. Shimon admits that if a goat
of the festival was not offered on the festival, it
may be offered on Rosh Chodesh; if it was not
offered on Rosh Chodesh, it may be offered on Yom
Kipur; if not then, on the next festival; if not, on
the following festival, for it was originally
designated to be brought on the outer Altar.
(n) Version #2 (Tosfos) Shmuel holds like R. Yochanan (that
Chachamim hold that Hekdesh purchases on condition, extra
Tamid sacrifices can be redeemed unblemished).
1. (Shmuel): Communal sacrifices may be changed from
their original designation until slaughtered.
(o) (Beraisa): R. Shimon admits that if a goat of the
festival was not offered on the festival, it may be
offered on Rosh Chodesh; if not, on Yom Kipur; if not, on
the next festival; if not, on the following festival, for
it was originally designated to be brought on the outer
Altar. (Some explain, this is a support for Rav Shmuel
bar Rav Yitzchak, who says that R. Shimon admits that
extra communal Chatas goats are not themselves brought as
Nedavah.)
3) ATONEMENT FOR OTHER TRANSGRESSIONS
(a) (Mishnah): The inner goat and Yom Kipur atone for
intentional Tum'ah in the Mikdash or with Kodshim.
(b) Question: What is the source of this?
(c) Answer (Beraisa): "V'Chiper Al ha'Kodesh mi'Tum'os Benei
Yisrael...";
1. "Umi'Pisheihem" refers to intentional sins,
"Chatosom" refers to unintentional sins.
(d) (Mishnah): The goat sent to Azazel atones for all other
transgressions, light or severe, intentional or
unintentional, (whether or not the person knows he
sinned, Lav or Ase, even what is punishable by Kares or
death)...
(e) Question: The Mishnah teaches the same things in
different ways!
1. A light sin is a Lav or Ase; a severe sin is one
punishable by Kares or death!
2. Intentional is when he knows that he sinned,
unintentional is when he does not know!
(f) Answer (Rav Yehudah): The Mishnah teaches thusly: the
goat sent to Azazel atones for all other transgressions,
light or severe, intentional or unintentional,
1. The unintentional sins are whether or not the person
found out that he *may have* sinned (e.g. one of two
pieces of meat was Chelev, he is unsure which he
ate; normally, the doubt obligates him to bring an
Asham).
2. A light sin is a Lav or Ase; a severe sin is one
punishable by Kares or death.
(g) Question: What is the case of an Ase?
1. If he did not repent, sacrifices do not atone for
him - "Zevach Resha'im To'evah"!
2. If he repented, he got atonement immediately!
i. (Beraisa): One who transgressed an Ase and
repented, he is immediately forgiven.
(h) Answer (R. Zeira): The case is, he did not repent; the
Mishnah is Rebbi.
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