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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Pesachim 108
1) EATING AND DRINKING OF EREV PESACH (cont'd)
(a) R. Sheshes fasted on Erev Pesach.
(b) Question: Can we infer that which R. Sheshes holds?
1. He interprets "near Minchah" to mean Minchah Gedolah.
(i) The rationale would be the Korban Pesach.
(ii) We fear that his meal might extend to the evening.
2. He holds that the Pesach would be acceptable even if
slaughtered before noon (re-interpreting Bein HaArbayim).
(c) Answer: No. R. Sheshes didn't eat owing to personal eating habits.
2) HESEIBA
(a) Matzah requires leaning, but not Maror.
(b) There are two traditions regarding R. Nachman's position on wine.
(c) These traditions refer to the first two cups and the last cups.
1. One understanding attributes the leaning to the first cups
(with the introduction of freedom) and not-leaning to the
last
cups (the matter is past).
2. The other understanding attributes the leaning to the last
cups (the time of redemption) and the not-leaning to the
first
cups (we were still slaves).
(d) Now that we have both traditions, we lean by all four cups.
(e) Prakdan is not called Heseiba, nor is leaning on the right side.
1. There is danger of choking, as well.
(f) A woman needs not lean in the presence of her husband, while an
important woman is required to lean.
(g) A son leans in the presence of his father.
(h) Question: What of a student in the presence of his Rebbi?
(i) Answer: Abaye reported a difference between the home of Rabah and,
later, that of R. Yosef.
(j) Question: But the Bereisa says that a student *does* lean!?
(k) Answer: That Bereisa is speaking of an apprentice.
(l) Question: What of the Shamash?
(m) Answer: The Bereisa clearly indicates that he must lean.
3) THE FOUR CUPS
(a) [R. Yehoshua] Women are obligated in the four cups as they, too,
were part of the miracle.
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(b) R. Yehudah citing Shmuel taught:
1. The cups must contain enough wine to dilute one cup for
Birkas
HaMazon (Mezigas Kos Yafeh).
2. He was Yotzei if he drank them undiluted; or,
3. If he drank them all at once; or,
4. If he gave of his cup to members of his household.
(c) [Rava] If he drank it undiluted he fulfilled the obligation of
Yayin but not Cheirus.
(d) [Rav] If he drank them all at once he fulfilled Yayin but not the
obligation of four cups.
(e) [R. Nachman b. Yitzhok] He needs to have drunk a majority of the
cup (before passing it to members of his household).
(f) Question: The Bereisa speaks of a Revi'is, not of Kos Yafeh?!
(g) Answer: They are the same measure.
(h) Question: What is Mezigas Kos Yafeh that Shmuel referred to?
(i) Answer: For each cup, together making a Revi'is.
(j) [R. Yehudah] The wine must have taste and appearance of wine.
(k) Question: What is his reason?
(l) Answer: Based on the Pasuk describing wine.
(m) Everyone is obligated in the four cups, men women and children.
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