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Nedarim 59
1) DOES GROWTH NULLIFY THE ROOT?
(a) Answer: The obligation to tithe does not come from the
land, rather from winnowing.
(b) Question (Rami Bar Chama - Mishnah): 'These fruits are
forbidden to me, or to my mouth' - he may not benefit
from what they are exchanged for or what grows from them.
1. 'What I eat, what I taste (should be forbidden)' -
he is permitted what they are exchanged for or what
grows from them;
2. This applies to a species in which the seed
disintegrates; if not, he is forbidden even in what
grows from what grows from them.
(c) Answer #1 (R. Aba): Vows are different - since he can
annul his vow, it is as a matter that can become
permitted, which is not nullified when mixed with a
majority of permitted things.
1. Question: But one may annul a declaration of
Terumah, and it can be nullified!
2. (Mishnah): 1 Se'ah of Tamei Terumah fell into less
than 100 Sa'im of Chulin - it must all rot.
i. Had it fell into 100 Sa'im, the Terumah would
be nullified!
3. Answer: The case is, the Terumah was given to a
Kohen, so the Yisrael may no longer annul his
declaration of Terumah.
4. Question: But the end of the Mishnah says, if the
Terumah is Tehorah, the mixture may be sold to a
Kohen (we see, it was in the hands of a Yisrael)!
5. Answer: The case is, it belonged to a Yisrael that
inherited it from his mother's father, who was a
Kohen.
6. Question: But the end of the Mishnah says, the
mixture may be sold to a Kohen except for the value
of the Terumah (we see, the Yisrael was obligated to
give the Terumah to a Kohen)!
7. Answer: The case is, it belonged to a Yisrael that
inherited it from his mother's father, who was a
Kohen.
(d) Answer #2: Rather, vows are different, for it is a
Mitzvah to annul them, as R. Noson.
1. (R. Noson): Anyone that vows is as one that builds a
private altar (when they are forbidden); one who
fulfills the vow (i.e. does not annul it) is as if
he offered a sacrifice on it.
2. There is no Mitzvah to annul a declaration of
Terumah.
2) TITHED PRODUCE THAT WAS PLANTED
(a) (R. Yochanan): A Litra of onions which were tithed and
planted - when they grow, one tithes the entire amount.
(b) Question (Rav Chisda): 1 Litra of the grown onions were
already tithed and permitted - how can you treat them as
totally untithed?!
(c) Answer (Rava): A Mishnah supports R. Yochanan!
1. (Mishnah): Onions (from before Shemitah) were in the
ground in Shemitah; rain fell on them, and they
sprouted.
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2. If their leaves are black, they are (entirely)
forbidden (as Shemitah produce); if the leaves
turned green, they are permitted
i. When the leaves are black, we do not say that
what grew before Shemitah remains permitted!
(d) Rejection (Rav Chisda): The Mishnah does not say that the
entire onions are forbidden, only what grew in Shemitah!
(e) Question: If so, what does R. Shimon Ben Gamliel teach?
1. (Beraisa - R. Shimon Ben Gamliel): The amount that
grew in a forbidden state (Shemitah) is forbidden;
the amount that grew in a permitted state is
permitted.
2. According to Rav Chisda, the 1st Tana agrees!
(f) Answer: Yes - R. Shimon Ben Gamliel taught the entire
Beraisa.
1. (Even though there is no proof for R. Yochanan, he
is not refuted).
2. In the Beraisa, the onions grew by themselves, so
they are not nullified; in R. Yochanan's case, the
owner toiled (to plant the onions), and we can say
that the initial bulb is nullified once the added
growth exceeds the initial size.
(g) Question: Is it really true that whenever he toiled, what
is planted is nullified when the added growth exceeds it?
1. By the case of a Litra of Ma'aser Rishon (from which
Terumas Ma'aser was not taken) that was planted (in
Shemitah), he toiled; yet we learned that tithes
must be removed on the initial Litra from other
produce! (If it would be nullified, it would be as
Shemitah produce, which is exempt from tithes!)
(h) Answer: Ma'aser is different, for the Torah said "Tithe,
tithe" (to include, even after it is planted, it is
treated as if it was not yet tithed).
1. This applies to the normal case - he planted what is
permitted; if he plants what is forbidden, the
prohibition remains.
(i) (R. Chanina Trisa'ah): A Terumah onion was planted, and
the added growth is more than the bulb, it is permitted.
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