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Nedarim 30
1) POSTPONED ACQUISITIONS
(a) Question (R. Hoshaya): A man gives two Perutos to a
woman, and tells her, 'One Perutah should engage you to
me today; the other should engage you to me after I
divorce you'.
1. Bar Pada will hold that the 2nd engagement also
works!
(b) Objection (R. Yirmiyah): You cannot compare the case when
the one who created the Kedushah redeems it, to a case
where someone else redeems it!
1. (R. Yochanan): If the one who made them Hekdesh
redeems them, they become Hekdesh again; if someone
else redeems them, they do not.
2. The case of engagement is like redemption by someone
else.
2) WHO IS A SEAFARER?
(a) (Mishnah): One who vows not to benefit from seafarers is
permitted to benefit from those that dwell on land; one
who vows not to benefit from those that dwell on land is
forbidden to benefit from seafarers, since seafarers are
also considered to dwell on land.
1. The intention is not to those that go from Ako to
Yafo, rather to those that take extended voyages.
(b) (Gemara - Rav Papa or Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika): The last
clause applies to the beginning of the Mishnah;
(c) (The other of Rav Papa/Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika): It
applies to the end of the Mishnah.
(d) The one who applies it to the beginning explains: One who
vows not to benefit from seafarers is permitted to
benefit from those that dwell on land - we infer, he may
not benefit from seafarers;
30b---------------------------------------30b
1. The seafarers referred to are not those that go from
Ako to Yafo - those are considered to dwell on land
- rather, it refers to those that take extended
voyages.
(e) The opinion that it applies to the end of the Mishnah
explains: One who vows not to benefit from those that
dwell on land is forbidden to benefit from seafarers;
1. The intention is not only to those that go from Ako
to Yafo, rather, even to those that take extended
voyages, for they also eventually come to land.
3) WHO IS INCLUDED IN VOWS
(a) (Mishnah): One who vows from 'Ro'ei ha'Chamah' (seers of
the sun) may not benefit even from blind people - his
intention was to people seen by the sun.
(b) (Gemara): We infer this from the fact that he did not say
'Those that see'; he excluded fish and embryos from his
vow.
(c) (Mishnah): One who vows from black-headed people may not
benefit from bald people or white-haired people, but may
benefit from women and children - only men are called
black-headed.
(d) (Gemara): (He may not benefit from bald or white-haired
people) - from the fact that he did not say 'Those with
hair'.
(e) (Mishnah): He may benefit from women and children - only
men are called black-headed.
(f) Question: Why is this?
(g) Answer: Men sometimes cover their heads, sometimes not;
but women's heads are always covered, and children's are
always uncovered (and one would refer to them as those of
covered/exposed heads).
(h) (Mishnah): One who vows from Yeludim (those already born)
may benefit from Noladim (those that will be born); one
who vows from Noladim may not benefit from Yeludim;
(i) R. Meir permits even from Yeludim; Chachamim say, his
intention was to those that enter the world via birth.
(j) (Gemara) Question: According to R. Meir (who permits even
Yeludim), and obviously Noladim - from whom did he vow?
(k) Answer: The Mishnah is abbreviated - the full version is:
One who vows from Yeludim may benefit from Noladim; one
who vows from 'Noladim' may not benefit from Yeludim;
(l) R. Meir says, even one who vows from Noladim may benefit
from Yeludim, just as one who vows from Yeludim may
benefit from Noladim.
(m) Question (Rav Papa): Apparently, 'Noladim' means those
that will be born. But it says, "Your 2 children
ha'Noladim' to you in Mitzrayim" - can we say, that will
be born?!
(n) Counter-question (Abaye): If you say it means, those that
were born - but it says, "A son Nolad to the house of
David, Yoshiyahu"!
1. It cannot mean, was born - even Menashe was not yet
born at that time!
(o) Answer (to both questions - Abaye): Rather, Nolad (in the
Torah) has both meanings; regarding vows, we go after the
way people speak.
(p) (Mishnah): Chachamim say, his intention was to those that
enter the world via birth.
1. This excludes fish and birds (they hatch from eggs).
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