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Menachos 59
1) WHICH "MENACHOS" REQUIRE OIL AND "LEVONAH"?
(a) (Mishnah): Some Menachos require oil and Levonah, some
require oil but not Levonah, some require Levonah but not
oil, some do not require oil or Levonah.
(b) The following require oil and Levonah:
1. Minchas Soles, Machavas, Marcheshes, (Ma'afe Tanur)
Chalos and Rekikim, Minchas Kohanim, Chavitim, the
Minchah of Nochrim or women, the Omer;
(c) Minchas Nesachim requires oil but not Levonah;
(d) Lechem ha'Panim requires Levonah but not oil;
(e) Shtei ha'Lechem, Minchas Chotei and Minchas Kena'os do
not require oil or Levonah.
(f) Version #1 (Gemara - Rav Papa): Whenever the Mishnah
lists the Minchos Nedavah (i.e. here, 60A, 72B), each of
them is baked into 10 loaves;
1. Rav Papa holds that the Halachah is not like R.
Shimon, who says that Ma'afe Tanur may be brought
half Chalos and half Rekikim.
(g) Version #2 (Rav Papa): Whenever the Mishnah lists the
different Minchos (i.e. here, 60A, 72B), it lists 10
kinds;
1. The Stam Mishnah argues with R. Shimon, who says
that Ma'afe Tanur may be brought half Chalos and
half Rekikim (he says that there is an 11th kind,
half-half.)
2) DERIVING WHICH "MENACHOS" LACK OIL AND "LEVONAH"
(a) (Beraisa): "V'Nasata Aleha (on Minchas ha'Omer) Shemen" -
but not on Lechem ha'Panim, the verse overrides a Kal
va'Chomer:
1. Minchas Nesachim does not require Levonah, yet it
requires oil - Lechem ha'Panim requires Levonah, all
the more so it should require oil!
2. Therefore it says "Aleha Shemen" - but not on Lechem
ha'Panim.
3. "V'Samta Aleha Levonah (on the Omer)" - but not on
Minchas Nesachim, the verse overrides a Kal
va'Chomer:
i. Lechem ha'Panim does not require oil, yet it
requires Levonah - Minchas Nesachim requires
oil, all the more so it should require Levonah!
ii. Therefore it says "Aleha Levonah" - but not on
Minchas Nesachim.
4. "Minchah" - this includes the Minchah offered on the
eighth day (of Chanuchas ha'Mishkan), it had
Levonah;
5. "Hi" excludes Shtei ha'Lechem from oil and Levonah.
(b) Question: The Beraisa expounded "Aleha" to exclude Lechem
ha'Panim (from oil) - why not exclude Minchas Kohanim
instead?
(c) Answer: It is more reasonable that Minchas Kohanim has
oil, like the Omer, for they share the following
properties:
1. They are one Isaron of flour, they are kneaded in a
Kli Shares, they are offered outside (of the
Heichal), after one night they are Nifsalim on
account of Linah, Hagashah is done, Haktarah applies
(at least partially).
(d) Question: We should rather learn Lechem ha'Panim from the
Omer (that it has oil), for they share the following
properties:
1. They are Korbanos Tzibur, they are obligatory, they
override Tum'ah, they are (mostly or fully) eaten,
Pigul applies to them, they are (always or
sometimes) brought on Shabbos!
(e) Answer: It says "Nefesh" at the beginning of Parshas
Menachos (of a Yisrael, which have oil) - presumably, we
learn that all Menachos of individuals have oil.
(f) Question: The Beraisa expounded "Aleha" to exclude
Minchas Nesachim (from Levonah) - why not exclude Minchas
Kohanim instead?
(g) Answer: It is more reasonable that Minchas Kohanim has
Levonah, like the Omer, for they share the following
properties:
1. One Isaron is kneaded with one Log of oil, Hagashah
is done, the Korban comes for its own sake (whereas
Minchas Nesachim is on account of a Korban.)
(h) Question: We should rather learn Minchas Nesachim from
the Omer (that it has Levonah), for they share the
following properties:
1. They are Korbanos Tzibur, they are obligatory, they
override Tum'ah, they are (sometimes) brought on
Shabbos!
(i) Answer: We learn from "Nefesh" that all Menachos of
individuals have Levonah.
(j) (Beraisa): "Minchah" - this includes the Minchah of the
eighth day, it had Levonah.
(k) Question: Perhaps it rather comes to exclude (from
Levonah!)
(l) Answer: It is reasonable that it comes to include (we
have no other source to include);
1. To say that it excludes, we must have a source that
it should include - but we do not learn (Korbanos
that were a Hora'as) Sha'ah from (those that apply
to all) generations!
(m) (Beraisa): "Hi" excludes Shtei ha'Lechem from oil and
Levonah.
(n) Question: Perhaps it rather excludes Minchas Kohanim!
(o) Answer: It is more reasonable that Minchas Kohanim is
like the Omer, for they have these similarities:
1. They are one Isaron of flour, they are kneaded in a
Kli Shares, they are Matzah, they are brought for
their own sake, Hagashah is done, Haktarah applies
(at least partially).
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(p) Question: We should rather learn Shtei ha'Lechem from the
Omer, for they have more similarities!
1. They are Korbanos Tzibur, they are obligatory, they
override Tum'ah, they are (mostly or fully) eaten,
Pigul applies to them, their Avodah can be on
Shabbos, they permit (new grain, to people or the
Mizbe'ach), Tenufah is done, they must be from grain
of Eretz Yisrael, they are from new grain!
(q) Answer: We learn from "Nefesh" that all Menachos of
individuals have Levonah.
3) LIABILITY FOR OIL AND "LEVONAH"
(a) (Mishnah): If one puts oil and Levonah on Minchas Chotei,
he is liable for each of them by itself;
(b) If one put oil (on Minchas Chotei), it is Pasul; if he
put Levonah, he must remove it.
(c) If one put oil on the Shirayim he does not transgress a
Lav; if he put a Kli with oil on the Kli holding the
Minchah, the Minchah is Kosher.
(d) (Gemara - Beraisa): "Lo Yasim Aleha Shemen" - if he put
oil on it, it is Pasul;
1. Suggestion: "V'Lo Yiten Aleha Levonah" - perhaps if
he put Levonah on it, it is Pasul!
2. Rejection: "Ki Chatas" (it is still Mechaper like a
Chatas, even if Levonah was put on it.)
3. Suggestion: Perhaps this also applies if he put oil
on it!
4. Rejection: "Hi" (it is Mechaper only if done
properly.)
5. Question: (The words that Machshir and Posel do not
specify which is Posel and which is not -) why do we
say that oil is Posel and not Levonah, and not
vice-versa?
6. Answer: Oil is Posel because it cannot be removed,
Levonah is not Posel because it can be removed.
(e) Question (Rabah bar Rav Huna): If ground up Levonah was
put on it, what is the law?
1. If (normally) Levonah is not Posel because it can be
removed, here it cannot be removed!
2. If Levonah is not Posel because it is not absorbed
(by the flour), also this is not absorbed!
(f) Answer #1 (R. Yochanan - Mishnah): If he put Levonah, he
must remove it. (We infer, if not, it is Pasul!)
(g) Rejection: Perhaps the Mishnah teaches two reasons why it
is Kosher:
1. Firstly, it is not absorbed; secondly, it can be
removed.
(h) Answer #2 (Beraisa): Levonah is not Posel because it can
be removed.
(i) Rejection: Here also, the Mishnah gives two reasons to
Machshir, it is not absorbed; and it can be removed.
(j) Question: What was the conclusion?
(k) Answer (Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak - Beraisa): If Levonah
was put on Minchas Chotei or Minchas Kena'os, it must be
removed, the Minchah is Kosher;
1. If the Kohen had intent Chutz li'Zmano *or* Chutz
li'Mkomo before it was removed, it is Pasul, there
is no Kares;
2. If he had intent after it was removed - Chutz
li'Zmano makes Pigul, there is Kares; Chutz li'Mkomo
is Posel, there is no Kares.
3. (This shows that the Minchah is Pasul until the
Levonah is removed!)
(l) Version #1 (our text, Rashi) Question: The Levonah is
like a flask of oil - while it is on the Minchah, the
Minchah is Pasul, intent should not take effect!
(m) Answer #1 (Abaye): It is called Chatas (intent takes
effect, even when Levonah is on it);
(n) Version #2 (Tosfos) Question: The Minchah is Pasul while
the Levonah is on it - it should be Nidcheh (removing the
Levonah should not help!)
(o) Answer #1 (Abaye): It is called Chatas (even when Levonah
is on it, therefore, it can become Kosher again.) (End of
Version #2, answers 2 and 3 apply to both versions.)
(p) Answer #2 (Rava): Our Mishnah is like Chanan ha'Mitzri,
who argues with the concept of Dichuy (Rashi - it is as
if the Minchah is Kosher even before the Levonah is
removed):
1. (Beraisa - Chanan ha'Mitzri): If the goat sent to
Azazel (on Yom Kipur) died after slaughtering the
goat selected for Hash-m, we find another goat to
send to Azazel
(q) Answer #3 (Rav Ashi): Our Mishnah is even like Chachamim
- anything which a person can fix is not considered
Dichuy.
(r) Support (for Rav Ashi - Rav Ada): Presumably, Rav Ashi is
correct - R. Yehudah holds (in the following Mishnah)
that Dichuy takes effect, but when a person can fix it
(in the following Beraisa), he says that Dichuy does not
take effect!
1. (Mishnah - R. Yehudah): If the goat selected for
Hash-m was slaughtered and the blood spilled, the
goat selected for Azazel must die (and two new goats
are taken); if the goat selected for Azazel died, we
spill the blood of the slaughtered goat.
2. (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): (After the Korbanos Pesach
were offered,) they would gather a bucketful of
blood from the floor from all the Korbanos and throw
it on the Mizbe'ach, to Machshir a Korban (in case
its blood spilled. Even though Zerikah must be from
a Kli, it was not Nifsal when it spilled.)
4) THE "SHI'UR" TO TRANSGRESS THE "LAV"
(a) Version #1 (R. Yitzchak bar Yosef): If any amount of oil
was put on a k'Zayis of Minchah, it is Pasul.
(b) Question: What is the reason?
(c) Answer: "Lo *Yasim*" - any amount; "Aleha" - on a proper
Shi'ur;
(d) (R. Yitzchak bar Yosef): If a k'Zayis of Levonah was put
on any amount of Minchah, it is Pasul.
(e) Question: What is the reason?
(f) Answer (R. Yochanan): "V'Lo *Yiten*" - a proper Shi'ur;
"Aleha" - it already said this (teaching that one must
put on a proper Shi'ur of Minchah) - whenever two
exclusions teach the same thing, they actually come to
exclude, i.e. one who puts on any amount of Minchah
transgresses.
(g) Version #2 - Question (R. Yitzchak bar Yosef): If any
amount of oil was put on a k'Zayis of Minchah, what is
the law?
1. Must 'Simah' (of oil) resemble 'Nesinah' (of
Levonah, which connotes a k'Zayis?)
(h) This question is not resolved.
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