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Bava Basra 74
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1) THE TRAVELS OF RABAH BAR BAR CHANAH
(i) The guide showed us those who died in the wilderness:
their faces were happy like drunkards, they were sleeping
with their faces up [showing that they trusted in
Hash-m]. One had his knees bent; our guide passed
underneath, riding a camel and holding a spear, without
touching him (Etz Yosef - Zimri's knees were bent,
Eliyahu (Pinchas) killed him with a spear, no one was
able to touch (i.e. stop) him).
(j) I cut the corner of one of their garments, with Tzitzis
on it; we were unable to travel.
1. The guide: Perhaps you took something from them?
Return it, for one who takes something from them is
unable to go [Hash-m swore that they will not enter
Eretz Yisrael, this applies even to their garments].
2. I returned it, and we were able to proceed.
3. When I returned, Rabanan rebuked me: you cut the
corner in order to determine if the Halachah follows
Beis Shamai or Beis Hillel - you should have counted
the number of strings and knots!
(k) The guide showed us Har Sinai: It was surrounded by
scorpions, guarding it like white donkeys [allusions to
Chachamim].
1. Voice from Heaven: Woe to Me that I swore; now that
I swore, who will permit My oath?!
2. When I returned, Rabanan rebuked me: you should have
permitted Hash-m's oath (Tosfos - that those who
died in the wilderness will not enter Eretz Yisrael;
Rashbam - that Yisrael will be in Galus).
3. Rabah bar bar Chanah thought that Hash-m referred to
the oath not to flood the world again.
4. Rabanan reason that Hash-m would not regret that
oath so much.
(l) The guide showed us where Korach and his cohorts were
swallowed. There were two crevices, smoke was exuding. He
soaked wool in water, put it on the end of a spear and
put it inside; it became singed. I was able to hear them
saying 'Moshe and his Torah are true, (Korach and his
congregation) are liars'.
1. The guide: Every 30 days Gehinom returns them to
here, like meat in a frying pan, and they say this.
(m) The guide showed us where Heaven touches earth [where
prayer can change one's Mazel]. I put my [prayer for]
bread in the window; after praying, I did not find it
[that my prayer was answered]. I thought this was on
account of thieves [that blocked my prayer]!
1. The guide: No, the sphere (on which the
constellations are fixed) moved, you will find it
[that your Mazel has changed] tomorrow.
(n) R. Yochanan: I was on a ship, and saw a fish [the Mazel
of Adar] take its head out of the water. Its eyes were
like moons, water {Torah) came from its two nostrils like
rivers of Sura (Etz Yosef - on account of the birth of
Moshe and the second acceptance of the Torah (in the days
of Mordechai), which were in Adar).
(o) Rav Safra: I was on a ship, and saw a horned fish
(ha'Kosev (in Ein Yakov) - a kindgom): engraved on the
horn it said 'I am a small sea creature, I am 300
Parsa'os, I will fall into the mouth of Livyasan (Edom,
to which most kingdoms will be drawn).
1. Rav Ashi: That was the sea-goat, it digs with its
horns to seek food.
(p) R. Yochanan: I was on a ship, and saw a chest with
precious gems; fish surrounded it. An expert swimmer
descended to take it; the fish sought to bite his leg. He
threw vinegar at it; it fled.
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1. Voice from Heaven: That chest is for the wife of R.
Chanina ben Dosa [who convinced her husband not to
take any of their reward in this world], it will
contain Techeiles for Tzadikim in the world to come.
(q) Rav Yehudah Hindu'ah: I was on a ship, I saw a gem
(Torah); a giant crocodile was by it. A swimmer came to
take it; the crocodile sought to swallow the ship. A
raven came and cut off its head; the sea turned red from
all the blood. Another crocodile took the stone, and hung
it on the dead crocodile; it revived, and sought to
swallow the ship again. The raven cut off its head again,
and threw the gem into our ship.
1. We had some salted birds; we put the gem on them,
and they revived, took the gem and flew away.
(r) R. Eliezer and R. Yehoshua were on a ship; R. Eliezer was
sleeping. R. Yehoshua was agitated, and woke R. Eliezer.
1. R. Eliezer: What agitated you?
2. R. Yehoshua: I saw a great light (Iyun Yakov - he
thought it was the light at the head of a great wave
ready to sink the ship (73A))!
3. R. Eliezer: Perhaps it was the eyes of Livyasan -
"V'Einav k'Afapei Shachar".
(s) Huna bar Noson was travelling in the wilderness; they had
a thigh of meat, they opened it, removed the Chelev and
Gid ha'Nasheh, and put it on grass; by the time they
gathered firewood, the thigh had closed up.
1. The next year, they returned and saw that the coals
were still burning.
2. Ameimar: That was Samterei grass (which constricts;
R. Gershom - a life-giving drug) and Risma coals
(which burn a long time).
(t) (Chachamim of Bavel): "Va'Yivra Elokim Es ha'Taninim
ha'Gedolim" - these are Re'emim (great creatures) of the
sea.
(u) (R. Yochanan): This is the male Livyasan, it is straight
as a bolt; and the female Livyasan, it surrounds the
world - "...Livyasan Nachash Bari'ach v'Al Livyasan
Nachash Akalason".
2) LIVYASAN
(i) [The simple meaning of these accounts is also true.]
(j) (Rav Yehudah): Hash-m created all creatures male and
female, also a male Livyasan (Rashba - Sechel) and female
(Nefesh);
1. If the male and female Livyasan would mate (all
would be according to Sechel), the world would be
desolate (no one would have children). Therefore,
Hash-m castrated the male (Rashbam - so it should
not mate with other fish, or be pained by
unfulfilled lust) and killed and salted the female
for Tzadikim to eat (Rashba - to draw close to
Hash-m; Shita - it will sustain every Tzadik,
joining his Nefesh and body, so it will not return
to dirt) in the world to come - "V'Harag Es ha'Tanin
Asher ba'Yam".
2. Also the giant Behemos of Harerei Elef (Resha'im)
would destroy the world if they would mate; Hash-m
cooled (removed lust from) the female (physical
bodies) and castrated the male (their forms) -
"Hinei Kocho v'Masnav v'Ono bi'Shriri Vitno".
(k) Question: Why didn't He likewise cool the female
Livyasan?
(l) Answer: Fish are different, they are lewd (Iyun Yakov -
even though they are naturally cold. Shita - if the
castrated male would see the female, he would destroy the
world).
(m) Question: Why didn't He kill the male and castrate the
female?
(n) Answer #1: A salted female is better (Shita - the flesh
is fatter).
(o) Answer #2: "Livyasan Zeh Yatzarta Lesachek Bo" - it is
improper to frolic with a female.
(p) Question: Why didn't He likewise salt the female giant
Behemah?
(q) Answer: Salted fish is good, salted meat is not.
3) THE SEAS
(i) (Rav Yehudah): When Hash-m wanted to create the world, he
told the Sar (angel appointed over) of the sea to open
its mouth and swallow all the (Ben Yehoyada - evaporate
the excess) water.
1. The Sar: It is enough that I swallow my water!
2. Hash-m kicked it (made it physical) and killed it -
"B'Kocho Raga ha'Yam uvi'Svunaso Machatz Rahav";
i. (R. Yitzchak): This teaches that the Sar of the
sea was called Rahav.
3. If the water would not cover it, no creature could
stand its smell - "Ka'Mayim la'Yam Mechasim";
i. We understand this, it covers the Sar of the
sea. (R. Yitzchak E. Chaver - the Sar is the
evil inclination. Hash-m asked it to contain
all illusory temptations; it refused, it wanted
to dominate this world. Hash-m reduced its
power, this is called 'killing' it.)
(j) (Rav Yehudah): The Yarden emanates from the Pamyus cave.
(k) (Beraisa): The Yarden emanates from the Pamyus cave
(Rashba - the Nefesh is a emanation whose first source is
Sechel of Hash-m), passes through the seas of Sivki and
Tiveryah, goes to the Yam ha'Gadol (where it becomes a
Nefesh) and enters the mouth of Livyasan - "Yivtach Ki
Yagi'ach Yarden El Pihu".
(l) Question (Rabah bar Ula): That refers to animals
(physical bodies)!
(m) Answer: It means, animals are secure until the Yarden
enters the mouth of Livyasan (ha'Kosev - the Nochrim are
not worried as long as Yisrael is in exile, for they will
not be judged until Mashi'ach comes).
(n) Question (Rav Dimi): What does it mean "Ki Hu Al Yamim
Yesadah v'Al Neharos Yechoneneha"?
(o) Answer: These are the seven seas and four rivers that
encompass Eretz Yisrael:
1. The seas Tiveryah, Sedom, Chilas, Chilta, Sivki,
Aspamya and Yam ha'Gadol;
2. The rivers: Yarden, Yarmoch, Kidomiyon, and Pigah.
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