I want to peel the fish from
its skin before the meal, how must it be done?
The question related to serving pink salmon where the host wished to
serve the salmon without its skin. In the previous shiur we learned that one may
separate ochel from p’soles immediately before the meal and not
only before one actually puts the separated ochel into one’s mouth.
The
host is permitted to remove the fish from its skin (not the skin from the fish)
and thus serve it at the table.
The
mode d’employ would be to insert a knife or a fork in between the skin and
the fish, and lift the fish from the skin.
I am leaving the house at 12:00 and before
I leave I want to take a sweater from a pile of sweaters for use at 16:00. May I
do this?
It is very difficult to find a way out of this predicament because
after all one is separating for later. The fact that one will not be in a
position to get one’s sweater at 16:00 should not permit one to do ‘borer’
before the time.
To try
and compare a ‘journey’ to a meal and say that the first leg of the journey is
comparable to the first course and 16:00, when the sweater is required, is the
second course, is a major chidush and therefore Rav Sternbuch shlita
says that one must be stringent and not remove the sweater, seeing that it
involves an issur d’oraisso - a biblical prohibition.
Either
one should plan ahead and remove the sweater before Shabbos, or one can remove
the sweater before leaving the house and wear it for a while, thus having
immediate use of the sweater.
One is not sure how many eggs will be
consumed at the meal; may additional eggs be peeled just in case they are
needed?
Let us refine the question. Sometimes a person eats one egg and
sometimes (health risks aside) two. May one peel two eggs before sitting down to
eat or is one required to only peel according to an explicit need?
Rav Sternbuch says that
since sometimes one eats two eggs it is also called a necessity and it is not
necessary to use a measuring cup to measure exact quantities before eating. One
may prepare quantities of food on Shabbos in the same manner one would normally
prepare, because the focus is on the present meal only.
Therefore one may peel, separate etc. everything that one would normally prepare
(right) before a meal and does not have to be exact in measuring the quantities
to be consumed. Needless to say that one may only have the forthcoming meal in
mind and not prepare extra for afterwards.
A gabbai in shul wants to
arrange the table for Kiddush held after shul and the only time he has to do it
is before mussaf. If borer is involved may he do it?
As often explained, convenience does not lead to any special
leniencies with regards to borer, and therefore the gabbai may not
prepare the Kiddush separating items prior to the Kiddush. His
only reason to prepare before mussaf is in order to facilitate his own
personal need to daven mussaf and not for the sake of the Kiddush.
The same would apply to
(Jewish) waiters in a hotel where the regular routine is to set the tables for
the morning meal after the Friday night meal. Since this preparation is not done
prior to the meal it is forbidden when borer is involved.
If
however each item of silverware is kept separate, i.e. forks with forks and
knives with knives then they may set the tables at night because in effect there
is no borer being done.
Is one
permitted to remove food from the freezer, from within a mixture,
long before a meal (or on Friday night) in order for it to defrost before the
next meal?
This is a difficult question. According to Rav Shlomo Zalman
Auerbach
ztz”l the answer is that it depends on the nature of the food. If it is food
that is regularly kept in the freezer and one would normally only remove it a
few hours before consumption in order to prevent the food from spoiling, then it
is ãøê àëéìä and one may do so on Shabbos as
well. If however it is food that can be kept in the refrigerator as well (or it
can even be stored in a cupboard) and one is merely freezing it to prolong its
shelf life, since it could have been removed from the freezer long before eating
without any negative consequences, it is not called
ãøê àëéìä to remove it from the freezer, and it should either be removed
before Shabbos, or placed in the freezer in such a way that it is not within a
mixture.
Others
hold that since borer involves a melacha d’oraisso one should only
prepare close to the meal.
I wish to refrigerate a tin of peaches 3-4
hours before the meal. The problem is that the tin is in a jumble together with
other tins. May I remove that particular tin and refrigerate it, when after all
it is being removed 3-4 hours prior to consumption?
This question is similar to the previous one by way of preparing
long before the upcoming meal but without a possibility of doing the separating
any closer to the meal.
From
Rav Shlomo Zalman
we can
understand that since this preparation need not have been done 3 hours before
the meal, rather it could easily have been done before Shabbos, it is not
necessarily called ãøê àëéìä and it may not be
done. According to the stringent opinion mentioned in the previous answer, this
preparation is prohibited regardless.
What if I have a bunch of tinned fruit in a
jumble (the same with drinks) and I remove one of them for later but without
looking at which one I take?
In such an event the tins are not regarded as two types or species
and removing one from within the mixture is not separating. This is similar to a
bunch of assorted colored socks and one does not need any particular color.
Removing one for later would not be Borer because they would not be
classed as a mixture, rather as “socks” per se.