Please summarize the main points of last shiur?
In the
previous shiur we learned the rules that apply when one
violates an issur d’oraisso unintentionally.
The main
points to remember are that the Shulchan Aruch HaRav
paskens according to R’ Yehuda who holds that nobody may
benefit from the melacha until after Shabbos. The
Vilna Ga’on paskens according to Tosefos who hold
that everyone may benefit from the melacha on
Shabbos.
The
Mishna Berura arbitrates saying that when necessary one
may be lenient and follow the Vilna Ga’on. We
suggested though, that one must ask a rav as to define what
necessary is.
Do the same rules apply when
violating an issur d’rabanan?
The
Bi’ur Halacha
cites the P’ri Megadim who learns that d’rabanan
shares a similar fate as a d’oraisso and argues on
his p’sak.
He
continues with the Vilna Ga’on who learns that
regarding a d’rabanan,
even R’ Yehuda rules that the perpetrator may benefit
from his handiwork on Shabbos and he supports this with the
Chayei Adam.
Final
word is that if one unintentionally violates an
issur
d’rabanan, one may benefit from the
issur
on Shabbos.
Can you provide some examples?
As
usual, the examples are intended to give an idea how a
rov
would
pasken
but are not intended to be a
p’sak.
In all instances one must seek
halachic
guidance.
v
Food was carried through a
carmelis
and
brought to
shul.
The people who carried the food thought that the
eiruv
was intact and upon arrival learned that it was broken. An
issur
d’rabanan has been violated, albeit unintentionally,
with the result that the food may be eaten.
v
This one’s tricky: pouring boiling water from a water urn
directly onto tealeaves in a teabag is an
issur
d’oraisso of
bishul.
Placing a teabag into a
k’li
sheini
might
involve a d’oraisso being that tealeaves are
kalei
habishul
(items
that cook easily) and as such one cannot be lenient. You can
argue and say that a cup of tea is necessary and rely on the
Vilna Ga’on, but one can easily make another cup of
tea avoiding Shabbos violations and forfeit this tea.
But what
if there is no tea essence or it’s the last teabag? It
depends on how dependant one is on that cup of tea and if
without it one will suffer.
v
Bread or cookies were ground on a grinding board,
unbeknown that it is an
uvda
d’chol
to use a
grinding board. Although one is permitted to grind bread and
cookies, as one may grind an item that has been previously
ground. Since it is an
issur
d’rabanan
one may
use and consume the ground bread and cookies.
When a non-religious person
performs a melacha for himself or for a religious person, is
the melacha deemed meizid or shogeig?
The
problem is as follows: a
shogeig
is defined as one of the two, either one knows it is Shabbos
but did not know or forgot that the
melacha
is prohibited, or one forgot that it is Shabbos.
A non-frum
Jew might know that a certain
melacha
is prohibited but has decided that religion is not for him
and thus his action does not conform to either of the above.
Seemingly then his action is a
meizid
(intentional violation), which according to all, prohibits
benefiting from the item until after Shabbos.
Is this true of all non-frum Jews?
I think
not. Many non-frum
Jews are of the opinion that since they have chosen not to
live a
frum
life, the torah restrictions do not apply to them and they
are permitted to “violate” the torah rules. We find a major
opinion in
halacha
that says
àåîø îåúø àðåñ äåà
– one who says it is permitted is not faulty, i.e. he is not
labeled as doing something with intention to violate the
issur.
Based on
that it is possible to say that a non-frum
Jew who mistakenly thinks that he is not obligated to adhere
to torah laws, is considered doing
melachos
b’shogeig.
Consequently, when such a person violates the Shabbos one
may benefit from the
melacha
on Shabbos when necessary. Obviously this is a very delicate
issue and one cannot
pasken
without speaking to a rov competent in these laws.
It is
very hard to decide who is a
îçìì ùáú áôøäñéà
(a
wanton Shabbos violator and a
meizid)
and therefore some
poskim
do not differentiate and consider non-frum
people to be close to
meizid.
Consequently, each case is individual and a Rov must be
asked.
Must one wait the time of bichdei
she’ya’asu (the time it takes to perform the melacha) after
Shabbos before benefiting from the melacha?
The
Shulchan Aruch
writes
that food cooked on Shabbos b’shogeig is prohibited
to all on Shabbos but permitted immediately after Shabbos
and one need not wait the time of bichdei she’ya’asu.
Why when a gentile performs a
melacha for a Jew one must wait bichdei she’ya’asu?
The
reason is twofold. If one was permitted to benefit from a
melacha right after Shabbos, one might still instruct a
gentile to perform a melacha on Shabbos to benefit
from it right after Shabbos, therefore Chazal
prohibited use of the item the time it takes to perform the
melacha to negate any benefit from it.
This
reason does not apply to a Jew because a) a Jew will not
agree to violate the Shabbos for a fellow Jew, and b) one
will not instruct a Jew to violate the Shabbos.