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Zevachim 49
ZEVACHIM 47-50 - Dedicated to the leaders and participants in the Dafyomi
shiurim at the Young Israel of New Rochelle, by Andy & Nancy Neff
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1) "TAFEL CHAMUR MIN HA'IKAR"
(a) Question: We find that l'Chatchilah, slaughter and
Kabalah of an Olah must be in Tzafon - what is the source
that both are Me'akev?
(b) Answer #1 (Rav Ada bar Ahavah): We learn from a Kal
va'Chomer - we learned that Chatas requires Tzafon from
Olah, it is Me'akev regarding Chatas - all the more so it
is Me'akev regarding Olah!
(c) Objection: We cannot learn from Chatas, for it atones for
Chayavei Kerisus!
(d) Answer (Rava): That refutes a normal Kal va'Chomer;
1. Rav Ada learns differently, i.e. we never find Tafel
Chamur Min ha'Ikar (there are more stringencies in
the Lamed (the matter learned) than in the source)!
(e) Question (Mar Zutra brei d'Rav Mari): We find Tafel
Chamur Min ha'Ikar - Ma'aser Sheni (produce) can be
redeemed, but produce bought with money of Ma'aser Sheni
cannot be redeemed!
1. (Mishnah): If produce bought with money of Ma'aser
Sheni became Tamei, it may be redeemed;
2. R. Yehudah says, it must be buried.
3. (Rashi - the question is from R. Yehudah, who never
allows redeeming produce bought with Ma'aser money;
Tosfos - some explain, the question is from
Chachamim, who never allow redeeming Tahor produce
bought with Ma'aser money; even outside of
Yerushalayim.)
(f) Answer: That is not a stringency of produce bought with
Ma'aser money - rather, its Kedushah is too weak to
transfer onto money! (We find that it is harder to redeem
produce worth less than a Perutah than produce worth more
than a Perutah.)
(g) Question: We find Tafel Chamur Min ha'Ikar regarding
Temurah!
1. Hekdesh does not take effect on a Ba'al Mum (to make
it Kedushas ha'Guf), but Temurah takes effect on it.
(h) Answer: Temurah is not more potent, it only imparts
Kedushah from Kodshim;
1. Hekdesh created the Kedushah from Chulin.
(i) Question: We find Tafel Chamur Min ha'Ikar regarding
Korban Pesach!
1. Pesach does not require Semichah, Nesachim, or
Tenufah of the Chazah v'Shok, but (if it was not
offered on Pesach it becomes) Mosar Pesach (and)
requires these!
(j) Answer: Mosar Pesach becomes a Shelamim, therefore, this
is not considered Tafel to Pesach.
2) "ASHAM" IS OFFERED IN "TZAFON"
(a) Answer #2 (to Question (a)): "Ha'Olah" - its slaughter
and Kabalah must be in its proper place (otherwise it is
Pasul).
(b) Question: What is the source that Tzafon is required for
Asham?
(c) Answer: "Bi'Mkom Asher Yishchatu Es ha'Olah Yishchatu Es
ha'Asham".
(d) Question: This teaches about slaughter, what is the
source for Kabalah?
(e) Answer: "V'Es Damo Yizrok" (since Zerikah is not in
Tzafon,) we use this to teach that Kabalah is in Tzafon.
(f) Question: What is the source that the Kohen who is
Mekabel must be in Tzafon?
(g) Answer: "*V'Es* Damo" is extra to teach this.
(h) Question: We find that l'Chatchilah, all must be in
Tzafon - what is the source that this is Me'akev?
(i) Answer: "V'Shochat Es ha'Keves".
(j) Question: But this verse teaches something else!
1. (Beraisa): Something which was part of a Klal
(category), and the Torah taught a law unlike other
elements of the Klal, concerning it, the laws
governing the rest of the Klal do not apply to it
unless the Torah explicitly says that they do
(returns it to the Klal);
2. An example - "V'Shochat Es ha'Keves bi'Mkom Asher
Yishchat Es ha'Chatas v'Es ha'Olah bi'Mkom ha'Kodesh
Ki ka'Chatas ha'Asham Hu";
3. Question: Why must the Torah teach "Ka'Chatas
ha'Asham"?
4. Answer: Because the Torah taught a Chidush regarding
Asham Metzora, that some of the blood is put on the
ear, thumb and toe, one might have thought that its
blood and Eimurim are not put on the Mizbe'ach;
i. "Ka'Chatas ha'Asham" teaches that it is like a
Chatas, the blood and Eimurim are put on the
Mizbe'ach.
(k) Answer: If the Torah only wanted to teach the law of this
Beraisa, it would have taught Tzafon in this verse and
not in "Zos Toras ha'Asham" (which teaches about all
Ashamos), we would have learned the other Ashamos from
Asham Metzora.
(l) Question: This is a good answer if we hold that the
exception to the Klal is not learned from the Klal, but
it teaches to the Klal;
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1. But if we hold that the exception is not learned
from nor teaches to the Klal, the Torah must teach
Tzafon in other Ashamos!
(m) Answer: Once the Torah teaches that Asham Metzora is like
a Chatas, we already know Tzafon;
1. "V'Shochat Es ha'Keves bi'Mkom..." is extra to teach
that Tzafon is Me'akev.
(n) Question (Mar Zutra brei d'Rav Mari): We should say that
the Torah returned Asham Metzora to the Klal (of Ashamos)
only regarding Avodos that require Kehunah, such as
Zerikah and Haktaras Eimurim, but not regarding Tzafon!
(o) Answer: If so, it should have said 'Ka'Chatas Hu';
1. Rather, it says "Ka'Chatas ka'Asham" to teach that
it is like other Ashamos (they require Tzafon).
3) LEARNING "HEKESH MI'HEKESH"
(a) Question: ("V'Shochat...bi'Mkom...ha'Chatas v'Es
ha'Olah") - why must the Torah equate (the place of
slaughter of) Asham to (that of) Chatas and Olah?
(b) Answer (Ravina): Had the Torah equated it only to Chatas,
one might have thought that we can learn from a Hekesh
(to something learned) from a Hekesh (even in Kodshim),
we would learn Asham from Chatas (which was learned from
Olah);
1. (Therefore, the Torah was Makish also to Olah, to
teach that we could not learn from the Hekesh to
Chatas, for Chatas itself was learned from a
Hekesh.)
(c) Question (Mar Zutra brei d'Rav Mari): It would have
sufficed to Makish Asham to Olah!
(d) Answer (Ravina): If so, we would not learn that we cannot
learn Hekesh mi'Hekesh.
1. Suggestion: Perhaps we would be able to deduce this
from the fact that the Torah made the Hekesh to
Olah, and not to Chatas!
2. Rejection: No - we would say that even though we can
learn Hekesh mi'Hekesh, the Torah preferred to make
the Hekesh from the source;
i. Rather, the Torah made a Hekesh to Chatas and
to Olah, to teach that we cannot learn Hekesh
mi'Hekesh.
(e) (Rava): The following is the source that we cannot learn
Hekesh mi'Hekesh:
1. Question: What do we learn from "Ka'Asher Yuram
mi'Zevach ha'Shelamim" (written regarding Par
Mashu'ach)?
i. It need not teach that we offer the Yoseres
ha'Kaved and kidneys - it explicitly mentions
them!
2. Answer: We need to learn Yoseres ha'Kaved and
kidneys from Par He'elam Davar to Se'iri Avodah
Zarah, but we only learned them regarding Par
He'elam Davar from a Hekesh to Par Mashu'ach;
i. Since "Ka'Asher Yuram..." need not teaches
about Par Mashu'ach, we use it to teach about
Par He'elam Davar, it is as if Yoseres ha'Kaved
and the kidneys were explicitly mentioned
regarding Par He'elam Davar;
ii. (We infer that (normally) we cannot learn
Hekesh mi'Hekesh.)
(f) Question (Rav Papa): Why didn't the Torah explicitly
write Yoseres ha'Kaved and the kidneys regarding Par
He'elam Davar (instead of the Hekesh)?
(g) Answer (Rava): If so, we would not learn that we cannot
learn Hekesh mi'Hekesh.
1. Suggestion: Perhaps we would deduce this from the
fact that the Torah wrote them explicitly regarding
Par He'elam Davar, and did not make a Hekesh!
2. Rejection: No - we would say that even though we can
learn Hekesh mi'Hekesh, the Torah preferred to write
it explicitly;
i. Rather, the Torah made a Hekesh where the law
was already explicit, to teach that we cannot
learn Hekesh mi'Hekesh.
4) OTHER CASES OF "LAMED MI'LAMED"
(a) We cannot learn Hekesh mi'Hekesh - we learn this from
Ravina or Rava.
(b) Question: Can (something learned from) a Gezerah Shavah
teach through a Hekesh?
(c) Answer (Beraisa - R. Noson ben Avtulmus) Question: What
is the source that if Tzara'as spreads over an entire
garment, it is Tahor?
1. Answer: It mentions "Karachas" and "Gabachas"
regarding (plagued) garments, as it does regarding
Tzara'as of the head;
i. Just as there, if Tzara'as spreads over the
entire head it is Tahor, also regarding
garments.
2. Question: What is the source that if Tzara'as
spreads over the entire head, it is Tahor?
3. Answer: Tzara'as of the head is Hukash to Tzara'as
of the skin, about which it says "Kulo Hafach Lavan
(Tahor Hu)".
(d) (R. Yochanan): We always learn Lamed from Lamed, except
in Kodshim.
1. If we did learn Lamed from Lamed in Kodshim, the
Torah would not need to (make a Hekesh to) teach
that Asham requires Tzafon, we would have learned
from the Gezerah Shavah "Kodshei Kodoshim-Kodshei
Kodoshim" from Chatas!
2. Since the Torah made such a Hekesh, this teaches
that (something learned from) a Hekesh (e.g. that
Chatas requires Tzafon) cannot teach through a
Gezerah Shavah.
(e) Question: Perhaps, normally, we can learn, but here there
is a Pirchah (challenge) against it - Chatas atones for
Chayavei Kerisus (and Asham does not)!
(f) Answer: Both sides of the Gezerah Shavah "Kodshei
Kodoshim-Kodshei Kodoshim" are extra, if such a Gezerah
Shavah could be learned, we would not ask a Pirchah.
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