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Zevachim 38
ZEVACHIM 36-40 - Dedicated to the leaders and participants in the
Dafyomi shiurim at the Young Israel of New Rochelle, by Andy & Nancy
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1) THE REQUIRED "ZERIKOS" FOR A "CHATAS"
(a) (Beraisa) It says "V'Chiper" three times (regarding the
outer Chata'os (i.e. their blood is put on the outer
Mizbe'ach) of individuals), so we will not err regarding
Zerikah:
1. Suggestion: We should learn the law of upper blood
(that should be put on top of the Mizbe'ach, i.e. of
a Chatas) from lower blood (put on the bottom of the
Mizbe'ach, i.e. other Korbanos) - just as one
Zerikah of lower blood is Mechaper, also one Zerikah
of upper blood!
i. Counter-suggestion: Perhaps we should learn
outer Chata'os) from inner Chata'os (of Yom
Kipur or Par He'elam Davar, whose blood is put
on the inner Mizbe'ach) - just as every Zerikah
of inner Chata'os is Me'akev, also of outer
Chata'os!
2. Decision: We should learn from whichever is more
similar.
3. Suggestion: We should learn outer Korbanos from
outer Korbanos, and not from inner Korbanos.
i. Counter-suggestion: We should learn Chata'os
which require (Zerikah on the) four Keranos
from Chata'os which require four Keranos, and
not from other Korbanos!
4. Resolution: Since we would not know from which to
learn, it says "V'Chiper" three times:
i. "V'Chiper" - even if only three Zerikos were
done (it is Mechaper); "V'Chiper" - even if
only two Zerikos were done; "V'Chiper" - even
one Zerikah is Mechaper.
(b) Question: Each "V'Chiper" is needed to teach that that
Chatas is Mechaper (none is extra)!
(c) Answer (Rava citing Bar Ada Mari): Question: Each time it
says "V'Chiper", it also says "V'Nislach" - Kaparah is
Selichah (forgiveness)!
1. Answer: Each "V'Chiper" is extra to teach that one
of the Zerikos is not Me'akev.
(d) Question: Rather, we should expound (a smaller Chidush,)
"V'Chiper" - even if three Zerikos were done above and
one below; "V'Chiper" - even two Zerikos were above and
two below; "V'Chiper" - even if all the Zerikos were
below! (Tosfos - it is more reasonable to Machshir all
the Zerikos below than when three are below, for then (at
least one of) the lower Zerikos is not (on two sides that
meet at a corner) like the Torah proscribed for lower
Zerikos; Rashi (according to Tosfos) - if it is Mechaper
even when most of the Zerikos are below, surely it is
Mechaper even if all the Zerikos are below.)
(e) Answer #1: (Rav Ada bar Yitzchak): If so, putting on the
Keranos above would not be Me'akev!
(f) Rejection: If the Torah teaches that they are not
Me'akev, indeed, they are not Me'akev!
(g) Answer #2 (Rava): It only says "V'Chiper" three times, we
cannot expound to Machshir all four Zerikos below. (He
holds that it is more reasonable to Machshir three
Zerikos below than four, unlike the one who asked
Question (d).)
(h) Question: We should expound "V'Chiper" - even if three
Zerikos were done above and one below; "V'Chiper" - even
if two were above and two below; "V'Chiper" - even if
three were below and one above!
(i) Answer: We never find that some of the blood is Nizrak on
top and some on bottom.
(j) Question: We do find this!
1. Question #1 (Mishnah): He threw (the blood of an
inner Chatas) once above and seven times below.
2. Answer: He was Matzlif (flicked his hand), i.e. all
the blood went to the same place - 'above' and
'below' refers to the position of his hand.
3. Question #2 (Mishnah): He sprinkled seven times on
*Tiharo* of the inner Mizbe'ach.
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i. Suggestion: Tiharo means the middle (Rashi -
and surely, some of the blood will go above and
some below; Tosfos - other of the Zerikos are
put on top) - this is why noon is called
Tiharah!
4. Answer (Rabah bar Shila): No, it means the top -
"Uch'Etzem ha'Shamayim la'Tohar".
5. Question: The Shirayim are put on the bottom!
6. Answer: They are not Me'akev (we never find that
blood that is Me'akev is put partially on top and
partially on bottom).
7. Question: There is an opinion that Shirayim of inner
Chata'os are Me'akev!
8. Answer: We never find that blood that is Me'akev is
put partially on top and partially on bottom) of the
same Mizbe'ach.
(k) (Beraisa - R. Eliezer ben Yakov): Beis Shamai say that
two Zerikos for an (outer) Chatas, or one Zerikah for
other (outer) Korbanos, permit (offering the Eimurim and
eating the meat) and determine (whether or not the Korban
is) Pigul;
(l) Beis Hillel say that one Zerikah for any (outer) Korban
permits and determines Pigul.
(m) Question (R. Oshaya): If so, this should be listed (in
Maseches Eduyos) among the places where Beis Shamai is
more lenient than Beis Hillel! (The wording of the
Mishnah implies that Beis Shamai say that one is not
Mefagel in Zerikah unless both Zerikos were with intent
Chutz li'Zmano.)
(n) Answer (Rava): This was taught in response to the
question 'How many Zerikos are needed to Machshir the
Korban?' - regarding this, Beis Shamai are more
stringent.
2) THE LAST THREE "MATANOS" OF A "CHATAS"
(a) (R. Yochanan): The (last) three Matanos (Zerikos) of a
Chatas may not be done at night, but may be done after
the owner died; one who offers them outside (the Mikdash)
is liable;
(b) (Rav Papa): In some respects, they are like the first
Zerikah (which is Mechaper), in some respects, they are
like the Shirayim (which are not Mechaper):
1. Regarding the following, they are like the first
Zerikah:
i. Intent (Chutz) in these Matanos is Posel; it is
forbidden to do them at night, or by a Zar; one
must use a Kli Shares; one must put them on the
Keren, using the finger; (if the blood splashed
on a garment,) it must be washed (in the
Azarah); the remaining blood is put on the
Yesod.
2. Regarding the following, they are like Shirayim:
i. They may be done after the owner died, they do
not permit anything, intent of Chutz li'Zmano
is not Mefagel, if the blood entered the
Heichal it does not Posel the Korban.
(c) Support (Rav Papa for himself - Mishnah): If blood
splashed from the Korban's neck onto a garment, it need
not be washed;
1. If blood splashed from the Keren or the Yesod onto a
garment, it need not be washed.
2. Inference: If blood Ra'uy for (that should have been
put on) the Keren splashed onto a garment, it must
be washed!
(d) Objection: If so, we should also infer, if blood Ra'uy
for the Yesod splashed onto a garment, it must be washed
- but this is wrong!
1. (Beraisa): "Asher Yizah" - this excludes (from the
obligation to wash a garment that absorbed) blood of
a Korban after Zerikah.
2. Version #1 (Rashi): The Mishnah is like R. Nechemyah
(he obligates washing even Shirayim, but Chachamim
exempt washing even blood of the three Matanos).
(e) Version #2 (Tosfos) Answer #1: The Mishnah is like R.
Nechemyah. (He obligates washing blood for which one is
liable (for offering it) outside - likewise, since one is
liable for the last three Matanos outside, such blood
must be washed.) (end of Version #2)
1. (Mishnah - R. Nechemyah): If one offered Shirayim
outside, he is liable.
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