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Zevachim, 116
ZEVACHIM 116-117 - these Dafim have been dedicated anonymously l'Iluy
Nishmas Tzirel Nechamah bas Tuvya Yehudah by her family.
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1) CAN A MAN WHO IS A "TEREIFAH" LIVE FOR MORE THAN TWELVE MONTHS
OPINIONS: The Gemara discusses how we know that a Nochri is not allowed to
bring a Korban that is missing a limb (Mechusar Ever). The Gemara cites the
verse, "umi'Kol ha'Chai" -- "And from all living things" (Bereishis 6:19),
in which Hashem commands Noach that the animals that he will offer, in the
future, as Korbanos to Hashem must be fully alive -- that is, all of the
limbs must be intact. The Gemara then discusses how we know that this verse
does not exclude a Tereifah (instead of Mechusar Ever). The Gemara concludes
that we learn from the word, "Itach" -- "with you," in the same verse that
the animals that Noach was to take with him into the Teivah, and that he
would eventually offer as Korbanos, had to be like Noach, meaning that they
could not be a Tereifah. The Gemara then asks how we know that Noach himself
was not a Tereifah.
TOSFOS (DH Dilma) finds the Gemara's question difficult to understand. How
can we even entertain the possibility that Noach was a Tereifah? The Torah
explicitly relates that he lived an additional three hundred years after the
Mabul! A Tereifah, by definition, has a mortal defect which will cause it to
die within twelve months!
(a) TOSFOS answers that the Gemara is suggesting that it is possible that
Noach indeed was very ill for all of those years after the Mabul. Tosfos
explains that the question of the Gemara, therefore, is according to the
opinion cited in the Gemara that a Tereifah can live for more than twelve
months.
(b) Tosfos quotes RABEINU TAM who says that there is a difference between a
man who is a Tereifah and an animal that is a Tereifah. A person's fate is,
to some degree, subject to his unique Mazal. Rabeinu Tam apparently means
that a person's Mazal can keep him alive for longer than twelve months even
if he is a Tereifah.
Many Rishonim seem to disagree with Rabeinu Tam's assertion. The RAMBAM
(Hilchos Gerushin 13:16) discusses a case in which a man fell into the sea,
and a net was thrown in after him. The net came up with only a limb of the
man, and it was a limb without which one cannot live. The Rambam rules that
even though the rest of the body was not retrieved, and we did not clearly
see the man die, his wife may remarry, because we assume that the man died.
The MAGID MISHNEH quotes the RAMBAN and RASHBA who say that man's wife may
remarry only after twelve months pass after the limb was retrieved. The loss
of the limb made the man a Tereifah, and a Tereifah cannot live more than
twelve months. His wife, therefore, must wait twelve months in order to be
certain that her husband has died, and only then may she remarry.
The KESEF MISHNEH asks that the Magid Mishneh's ruling is not correct,
because a *person* who is a Tereifah *can* live more than twelve months. The
Kesef Mishneh's source is apparently the opinion of Rabeinu Tam (which is
also mentioned in Tosfos in Chulin 42b, DH v'Ha). (This answers the question
of the MAGIHAH D'AMSTERDAM, who questions the source of the Kesef Mishneh's
rejection of the Magid Mishneh.)
The BIRKAS HA'ZEVACH here says that Rabeinu Tam does not mean to say that a
person who is a Tereifah can always live longer than twelve months because
of his Mazal. Tosfos in Chulin quotes Rabeinu Tam, who says that a person
lives longer because of his Mazal, in a limited context. Rabeinu Tam is
discussing one particular case of a Tereifah regarding the area of the
skull, and he says that an animal with this condition can be a Tereifah,
while a person in the same condition is *not* considered a Tereifah, because
of his Mazal. The Birkas ha'Zevach says that this is the explanation of
Rabeinu Tam in our Gemara as well. When our Gemara suggests that Noach was a
Tereifah even though he lived for another three hundred years, the Gemara is
suggesting that he had the type of condition that renders an animal a
Tereifah but not a person. Accordingly, the Gemara asks, we cannot learn
from the verse of "Itach" that a Nochri is not allowed to offer as a Korban
an animal that is a Tereifah. Since Noach could have had the type of
condition that would have killed an animal (but not a person, due to his
Mazal), we do not know that Noach was commanded not to bring an animal that
is a Tereifah.
The Birkas ha'Zevach continues (in his second comment on Tosfos) and says
that based on this understanding of the words Rabeinu Tam, the Kesef
Mishneh's question on the Magid Mishneh is answered. The Rashba and Ramban
are talking about a type of Tereifah that is a Tereifah both in an animal
*and* in a person. Rabeinu Tam differentiates only between certain types of
Tereifos, as specified in Tosfos in Chulin. Even according to Rabeinu Tam,
people die from most types of Tereifos, even though they have a Mazal. (The
Birkas ha'Zevach even suggests that it was a mistaken student who wrote this
comment, as the Kesef Mishneh would never think that a person who is a
full-fledged Tereifah would live twelve months due to his Mazal.)
However, the PANIM ME'IROS explains that the Kesef Mishneh was asking a
different question on the Magid Mishneh. Once we see that Rabeinu Tam says
that it is possible that one type of Tereifah can be fatal for an animal but
not for a person (because the person has a Mazal), we are left with a doubt
about other states of Tereifah; perhaps there are other states of Tereifah
that are also not fatal for a person. Therefore, the Kesef Mishneh asks that
it is not reasonable to make a general rule that the loss of a limb causes a
person to die within twelve months, according to the opinion of Rabeinu Tam.
(Y. Montrose)
116b
2) HALACHAH: MAKING A COVER FOR A SEFER TORAH OUT OF RECYCLED CLOTHES
OPINIONS: The Gemara quotes Rebbi Elazar ban Shamua who says that just as
the Mizbe'ach cannot be made out of anything that was used by an ordinary
person, the wood used upon the Mizbe'ach as fuel cannot have been used by an
ordinary person.
The Gemara implies that items used for holy purposes may not come from items
that were used for ordinary purposes. Accordingly, it would seem that
Tashmishei Kedushah, such as the cover of a Sefer Torah, cannot be made from
items that were used for ordinary purposes. Is this the Halachah?
(a) The REMA (OC 147:1) quotes the opinion of the AGUDAH and others who say
that the cover of a Sefer Torah cannot be made out of old things which were
used by an ordinary person. The Agudah (Menachos, ch. 3) quotes our Gemara
as the source for this Halachah. (See YAD BINYAMIN who is perplexed by the
fact that none of the commentators mentions that Rashi (DH d'Maska) and
others seem to explain that our Gemara is saying only that one may not make
the holy Mizbe'ach out of an actual *Mizbe'ach* that was used for an
ordinary, and not that one may not turn an ordinary utensil into a
Mizbe'ach.) The MAGEN AVRAHAM quotes an additional source for this Halachah.
The Tosefta in Megilah (2:10) says that "vessels that were made originally
for the use of an ordinary person should not be used for a holy purpose.
Stones and beams which were hewn and cut for a person should not be placed
in the Har ha'Bayis."
(b) However, the Magen Avraham notes that people are lenient and do make
Tashmishei Kedushah out of old things. How can this be permitted? The Magen
Avraham answers that, first, it is possible that these Halachos apply only
to the Beis ha'Mikdash and things used for it, but not for regular
Tashmishei Kedushah. Second, these sources prohibit only using these things
without changing their shape and identity. There is no source in the Gemara
or Tosefta to prohibit using old things for Tashmishei Kedushah when one
changes them and makes them into a different entity.
The Magen Avraham proves that changing something into Tashmishei Kedushah is
permitted. We know that Moshe Rabeinu made the Kiyor out of mirrors which
the women of Benei Yisrael used to help beautify themselves (see Shemos
38:8). We see from there that it was permitted because the mirrors were
changed into an entirely new entity, a Kiyor.
This logic is also proposed by the CHAVOS YA'IR (#161). However, he argues
that this is *not* the logic that permitted the mirrors to be used for the
Kiyor. Rather, he explains that this logic was the reason for why Moshe
Rabeinu accepted the jewelry captured from the women of Midyan (see Bamidbar
31:50), including even the Kumaz (see RASHI there, DH Kumaz), and made them
into Klei Shares. Since they were changed into new entities, it did not
matter that they had been previously used for jewelry. However, the mirrors
that were made into the Kiyor were not changed significantly from their
previous form. This is why Moshe Rabeinu did not want to accept them until
Hashem told him explicitly that they were permitted (see Rashi to Shemos
31:50).
However, the CHASAM SOFER (OC 147:1) points out that both of these
explanations conflict with the understanding of the RAMBAN (Shemos 31:50).
The Ramban explicitly states that the reason why the Kumaz was accepted was
because it was Batel b'Rov, since it was mixed with all of the other metals
from which the Klei Shares were made. Moshe Rabeinu did not want to accept
the mirrors for the Kiyor, since they were to be the sole item from which
the Kiyor would be formed. Moreover, Rashi and the Ramban say explicitly
that the reason why Moshe did not want to accept the mirrors was because
they were used for an activity that involved the Yetzer ha'Ra.
This explanation seems to contradict the understanding of the Magen Avraham
regarding the mirrors. However, the fact that the Rishonim do not explain
that Moshe Rabeinu did not want to use these items because they had been
used for an ordinary person indicates that they agree that, in general,
these things may be used for Tashmishei Kedushah.
HALACHAH: The MISHNEH BERURAH (OC 147:13) quotes the ruling of the Magen
Avraham and Chavos Ya'ir, that people change ordinary items into items that
are used for Tashmishei Kedushah. He says that even though there are those
who are stringent, the custom is to be lenient. (See also Mishnah Berurah OC
147:14). (Y. Montrose)
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