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Zevachim, 92
1) TRAPPING A SNAKE ON SHABBOS
QUESTION: The Gemara establishes that the opinion of Shmuel is that of Rebbi
Shimon, who maintains that a "Davar she'Eino Miskaven" is permitted. A
"Davar she'Eino Miskaven" is an act that is done for a certain permitted
purpose, but which *may* result in a transgression being inadvertently
performed. The Gemara asks that this is not consistent with the position of
Shmuel regarding a "Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah," a Melachah that
one performs on Shabbos but not for the normal purpose for which the
Melachah is done (see Insights to Chagigah 10:2). Shmuel rules like Rebbi
Yehudah, who says that a Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah is Asur
mid'Oraisa, and not like Rebbi Shimon, who says that it is Asur mid'Rabanan
(see TOSFOS DH Aval, who asks why the Gemara assumes that the two concepts
are interdependent). The Gemara answers that Shmuel holds like Rebbi Shimon
regarding a Davar she'Eino Miskaven, and like Rebbi Yehudah regarding a
Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah.
TOSFOS (DH b'Melachah) quotes the BA'AL HALACHOS GEDOLOS who asks that in
Shabbos (3a), Shmuel says that whenever the word "Patur" ("exempt") is used
with regard to the laws of Shabbos, it means "Patur Aval Asur" -- one is
exempt from punishment, but the act is still prohibited -- except in three
cases. Those three exceptions are as follows. First, a person who sits
directly behind another person who is completely blocking the doorway of a
house in which a deer is confined is permitted to remain in his position
even after the first person leaves, and it is not considered to be a
transgression of the Melachah of hunting on Shabbos and is completely
permitted. Second, a person who traps a snake so that it not bite him is
exempt from punishment, and the act is permitted l'Chatchilah. Third, a
person who opens a blister in order to let out the puss is exempt, and the
act is permitted l'Chatchilah.
In the last two cases, the Ba'al Halachos Gedolos states, the reason why the
person is exempt is because the Melachah is not being done in order to
achieve the normal result of the Melachah (for example, the person who traps
the snake is not interested in having the snake itself, but rather he wants
to insure that it does not hurt him). Since his intention makes his act of
trapping into an Isur d'Rabanan according to Rebbi Shimon, it is permitted
l'Chatchilah in a situation where the snake might cause serious harm to the
person. Similarly, releasing puss from a blister is permitted because it is
a Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah, which is permitted when it prevents
or takes away serious pain.
However, according to our Gemara that says that Shmuel maintains that a
Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah is a Torah prohibition, this logic is
not applicable. How, then, can Shmuel maintain that a Melachah she'Einah
Tzerichah l'Gufah is Asur mid'Oraisa, and at the same time maintain that it
is permitted to capture the snake and to release puss from a blister?
ANSWERS:
(a) TOSFOS quotes RABEINU TAM who answers that Shmuel indeed maintains that
a Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah is a Torah prohibition. When he says
in Shabbos that it is permitted to trap a snake and to open a blister, he
does not mean that *he* permits doing so. Rather, he is simply stating a
rule that whenever we see the word "Patur" as the Halachah, we should know
that in these three cases the author of the statement maintains that the act
is permitted. According to Tosfos, Shmuel himself seems to rule that one may
not trap a snake even to ensure that it does not bite him (unless, of course
it is a matter of Piku'ach Nefesh), and one may not open a painful growth of
puss.
(b) Before he quotes the answer of Rabeinu Tam, TOSFOS mentions that the
Ba'al Halachos Gedolos gives a forced answer. The answer of the Ba'al
Halachos Gedolos is that Shmuel does agree with all of these Halachos.
While, in most cases, he rules like Rebbi Yehudah that a Melachah she'Einah
Tzerichah l'Gufah is a Torah prohibition, he maintains that when serious
pain or the danger of the public is involved, even a Melachah she'Einah
Tzerichah l'Gufah is permitted. This means that without the danger to the
public, he would rule that there is a Torah prohibition against
extinguishing a burning piece of metal as well. The Ba'al Halachos Gedolos
explains that a burning piece of metal is not easily discernible as being so
hot (in contrast to a burning piece of wood, which people know to avoid).
This is why Shmuel permits extinguishing the metal but not the wood.
Similarly, Shmuel permits trapping the snake to prevent it from biting, and
opening the painful blister to alleviate the pain. However, without the
extenuating factors of danger and pain, he would hold that these acts are
forbidden mid'Oraisa as a Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah.
Tosfos' difficulty with the Ba'al Halachos Gedolos seems to be that we do
not usually find, in the laws of Shabbos, that a Torah law is suspended for
the sole reason of pain, or possible pain, when there is no question of
Piku'ach Nefesh.
(c) The RAMBAM (Hilchos Shabbos 10:25) rules like Rebbi Yehudah and says
that a Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah is a Torah prohibition. However,
he also rules that one is allowed to trap a snake if his intention is to
prevent it from biting him. The Rambam's rulings seem contradictory. Many
commentators (for example, see ARUCH HA'SHULCHAN OC 316:19) explain that the
Rambam maintains that even Rebbi Yehudah agrees that it is permitted to trap
a snake to prevent it from causing harm, and it is not in the category of a
Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah. In order for an act to be classified
as a Melachah she'Einah Tzerichah l'Gufah, the nature of the act must be the
same as it is when it is Tzerichah l'Gufah, but it is merely being done for
a different purpose. In the case of trapping, the nature of the act is to
attempt to confine the animal in order to use it. That is, intrinsic to the
act of Melachah of hunting is the purpose of wanting to have the animal.
Accordingly, *not* wanting to keep the animal, but rather wanting the animal
to go away, is certainly not included in the Melachah of trapping. Even
though the method used for getting the snake away from oneself is trapping,
since it is done for the opposite purpose, it is not called hunting at all,
and it is not even a Melachah d'Rabanan. (Y. Montrose)
92b
2) BLOOD THAT SPLASHED FROM ONE GARMENT ONTO ANOTHER
QUESTION: The Mishnah (92a) teaches that if the blood of a Chatas Behemah
splashes onto a garment, it must be washed. The Gemara quotes Levi who asks
whether this also apples when the blood splashes onto one article of
clothing and then continues from there onto a second article of clothing.
Does the second garment need to be washed? Rebbi answers that the second
garment certainly needs to be washed. His reasoning is that if we hold that
blood that spills may be gathered up and used for Zerikah, then this blood,
when it splashes onto the second garment, is still valid to be used for
Zerikah, and thus it is subject to the requirement of washing. Even if we
hold that blood that spills is disqualified from Zerikah, we rule like Rebbi
Akiva who says that blood that, at one point, was valid for Zerikah and then
became Pasul, still makes a garment upon which it splashes require washing.
This is the only opinion offered on the subject in our Gemara.
The RAMBAM (Hilchos Ma'aseh ha'Korbanos 8:9) rules that in such a case the
second garment does *not* require cleaning. What is the source for the
Rambam's ruling?
ANSWERS:
(a) The MAHARI KURKAS explains that the Rambam maintains that the Halachah
does not follow the opinion of Rebbi Akiva. Rather, the Rambam rules that
blood that is Pasul does not require a garment to be cleaned, even if the
blood at one time was valid. Indeed, this is the position of many Amora'im
in the Gemara later (93a). Even though the Gemara here mentions the
possibility that perhaps the blood that spills remains valid for Zerikah
and, therefore, the blood that splashes from one garment to another should
require the second garment to be cleaned even according to the opinion that
argues with Rebbi Akiva, the Rambam must maintain that any blood which is
splashed onto a garment from a Kli Shares may no longer be used for Zerikah.
The reasoning for this is that since the blood now needs to be cleaned from
the garment, it no longer retains its status of blood that is fit to be
spilled onto the Mizbe'ach and attain atonement. Accordingly, once it
reaches the first garment, it no longer can make another garment require
cleaning, since it has become Pasul blood. Even though Levi was uncertain
about this, once we do not rule like Rebbi Akiva, and we have a doubt
whether the blood is still valid once it reaches the first garment, we must
be stringent and rule that the blood is Pasul. Although this ruling (that
the blood that spills onto the first garment becomes Pasul) results in the
Korban having less valid blood for Zerikah, it also results in the Rambam's
leniency that the second garment does not need to be washed. (See also
LECHEM MISHNEH).
(b) Similarly, the KESEF MISHNEH answers that the Rambam does not rule like
Rebbi Akiva because the Gemara's next statement implies that we do not rule
like Rebbi Akiva. However, the Kesef Mishneh is still bothered by the fact
that if we remain with a doubt whether or not the blood is valid for Zerikah
when it spills on the garment, then why do we not rule stringently and
require the garment to be washed? He answers that the verse states that the
garment must be washed "b'Makom Kadosh" -- "in a holy place" (Vayikra 7:20,
see 93b). Washing clothes is something which is not normally done in a holy
place, and thus it is degrading for us to wash clothes which might not need
to be washed in such a holy place.
(c) The KEHILOS YAKOV (#37) also mentions that the Rambam does not rule like
Rebbi Akiva, but he is bothered by the fact that the blood still might be
valid, requiring that the garment be cleaned even according to the Rabanan
who argue with Rebbi Akiva. He gives a different answer than the Kesef
Mishneh for this question.
He bases his explanation on the Gemara earlier (34b) that quotes Rebbi
Yehudah that on Erev Pesach, a Kohen fills a cup with blood from the spilled
blood of all of the Korbenos Pesachim that were offered, and he performs one
Zerikah. The Gemara explains that this shows that even though the blood was
spilled on the floor and seemingly disqualified from being used for Zerikah,
since the Kohen is always able to pick up the blood and do Zerikah with it,
the blood does not become pushed aside from being used for the Zerikah ("Kol
sheb'Yado, Lo Havei Dichuy"). TOSFOS (34b, DH Kol) has difficulty with the
Gemara there. We know that there is a Mitzvah of Kisuy ha'Dam, to cover the
blood of slaughtered birds and undomesticated animals. However, the Gemara
in Chulin (87a, and Avodah Zarah 47a) says that if the wind blew sand on
top of the blood, one is not required to cover the blood more; the Mitzvah
is considered to have been pushed off and it no longer can be done. Why do
we not say in that case as well that because the person can uncover the
blood, the Mitzvah has not really been pushed off? Tosfos answers that only
when another Mitzvah mandates that the object of the Mitzvah be made fit for
the Mitzvah do we consider the Mitzvah *not* to have been pushed off. In the
case of the blood of the Korban Pesach, the fact that the blood of someone's
Korban Pesach might have spilled and did not have Zerikah done with it gives
us a Mitzvah to gather the blood, and thus the blood is not considered to
have been pushed off from the Mitzvah. There is no Mitzvah, though,
mandating us to pick up the dirt which has fallen onto the blood in the case
of Kisuy ha'Dam, and, therefore, the Mitzvah is considered pushed off.
The Kehilos Yakov explains that the Rambam's ruling is based on the
reasoning of this Tosfos. The only reason to say that blood that falls on a
garment is not considered pushed off from the Mitzvah of Zerikah, just as
blood that fell on the floor is not pushed off, is because there is a
Mitzvah mandating us to pick it up. Since, in our case, the opposite
exists -- a Mitzvah telling us to *leave* the blood on the garment and wash
it out, the blood is definitely considered pushed off from being valid for
the Mitzvah of Zerikah! Levi, who asked the question, probably did not agree
with the Gemara in Chulin that says that Kisuy ha'Dam no longer can be done
when the wind blew dirt on top of the blood. However, the Rambam himself
does rule like the Gemara in Chulin, and thus he also rules that the blood
that spills on the garment is Pasul and no longer can be used for Zerikah.
(See Kehilos Yakov further, where he proposes that there is a possible
alternative understanding of Tosfos.) (Y. Montrose)
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