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Zevachim, 90
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1) "L'MIKRA HIKDIMAH HA'KASUV"
OPINIONS: The Gemara discusses the Beraisa's statement that even a Chatas
ha'Of is offered before an Olas Behemah. The Gemara quotes three statements
of Rebbi Eliezer, in which he relates that there are three specific cases in
which a Chatas is brought before an Olah, and in each of those cases, a
Yoledes brings the Olah before the Chatas. RASHI (DH v'Kan) explains that
Rebbi Eliezer learns that a Yoledes brings her Olah before her Chatas from
the verse, "Echad l'Olah v'Echad l'Chatas" -- "one for an Olah and one for a
Chatas" (Vayikra 12:8). We see from these statements of Rebbi Eliezer that
there *is* a case in which an Olah is brought before a Chatas. Rava refutes
this proof, saying that Rebbi Eliezer's statement does not prove that an
Olah may be brought before a Chatas. When the verse with regard to a Yoledes
says that she brings one Korban as an Olah and one as a Chatas, that order
is only "l'Mikra Hikdimah ha'Kasuv" -- "for reading, the verse gave it
precedence." What does Rava's answer mean?
(a) RASHI (DH l'Mikra) explains that the Torah writes the Korban Olah before
the Korban Chatas in the Parshah of Yoledes only because it wants the Korban
Olah to be *read* first. However, with regard to offering the Korbanos, the
Chatas must be offered first.
TOSFOS (DH l'Mikra) says that Rashi's explanation is perplexing. We do not
need Rava's explanation in order to know that the Torah wants the Korban
Olah to be read before the Korban Chatas; the Torah clearly writes it in
that order! Rather, the Torah, which is written with the most extreme
precision of words, is apparently telling us that the Olah of a Yoledes
precedes the Chatas! If this was not the case, then the Torah would have
mentioned Chatas first. In addition, it is not logical to say that Rebbi
Eliezer is merely pointing out (three different times) that the verse of
Yoledes says Olah before Chatas, unlike other verses, and he is not telling
us anything of Halachic significance.
RAV SHACH zt'l (AVI EZRI, Hilchos Ma'asei ha'Korbanos 14:5) offers an
explanation for the intention of Rashi. He suggests that Rashi understands
that Rebbi Eliezer is teaching something relevant in practice with regard to
a Yoledes. When designating the Korbanos that one will bring, a Yoledes is
supposed to designate and bring her Chatas before the Olah, as anyone
bringing both a Chatas and Olah must do. The Torah is telling us that the
obligation for a Yoledes to bring an Olah is independent of her obligation
to bring a Korban Chatas. This has practical relevance in a case in which
the woman dies after she was Makdish her Olah, but before she was Makdish
her Chatas. If the designation of the Olah is valid only when done after the
Chatas has been designated, then the heirs of the woman's estate would not
be obligated to bring the Korban Olah, since she was not Makdish the Chatas
upon which the Olah is contingent. If the Torah would have written the
Korban Chatas first, then we would have treated the Olah as dependent upon
the Chatas, such that it could be designated only if the Chatas was
designated already. When Rashi says that the Torah writes the Chatas first,
Rashi means that, according to Rebbi Eliezer, the Torah established the
obligation to bring the Korban Olah of a Yoledes independent of the
obligation of the Chatas. (In his conclusion, however, Rav Shach admits that
there is difficulty with this explanation.)
(b) TOSFOS quotes RABEINU CHAYIM who giving a different explanation. Rabeinu
Chayim says that Rava is answering that, indeed, the Korban Olah of a
Yoledes is different than the Korban Olah of other Chatas-Olah combinations.
As the Mishnah teaches, in most cases, when one has two Korbanos -- a Chatas
and an Olah -- that he must be Makdish, he should be Makdish the Chatas
first. By placing Olah first in the verse regarding a Yoledes, the Torah is
telling us that the Yoledes should be Makdish the Olah *before* the Chatas.
The Mishnah is discussing most cases, not that of a Yoledes. However, the
rule of the Mishnah and Beraisa that a Chatas (even a Chatas ha'Of) always
precedes an Olah still applies.
The Acharonim ask many questions on Rabeinu Chayim's explanation. Tosfos
himself concludes that this explanation is not consistent with the Gemara in
Erchin (21a). The CHESHEK SHLOMO asks that in the verses that discuss the
Korbanos of the Mo'adim (in Parshas Pinchas), we find that the Korban Olah
is always mentioned in the verse before the Korban Chatas. Using Rebbi
Eliezer's logic according to Rabeinu Chayim, this would indicate that for
all of the Korbanos of the Mo'adim, the Olah should be designated before the
Chatas. If this is the case, though, then how can the Mishnah say as a rule
that a Chatas should always be designated before an Olah? This rule has so
many exceptions that it cannot be considered a rule! (Perhaps we could
answer the question of the Cheshek Shlomo by saying that Rebbi Eliezer says
that the Chatas should be designated first only when the Torah writes Olah
before Chatas *in the same verse*, as opposed to when the Torah writes Olah
and then, a few verses later, writes Chatas.)
(c) The Cheshek Shlomo gives his own explanation of Rava's answer. He
explains that "l'Mikra" means that if one is unable to bring the Korbanos,
and he therefore must read the Parshah of the Korbanos that he needs to
bring in order to be considered as though he offered those Korbanos (see
Menachos 110a), then he should read the Parshah of the Olah before that of
the Chatas. He explains that this approach is especially logical with regard
to reading the Parshiyos of Korbanos of the Mo'adim. The offering of each
Korban is usually described in one word, such as "v'Hikravtem *Olah*"
(Bamidbar 28:27), which includes both the Zerikah and the burning of the
Eimurim. We know that the Zerikah of a Chatas is performed before the
Zerikah of an Olah, while the Haktaras ha'Eimurim of an Olah is performed
before the Haktarah of a Chatas. Therefore, the fact that the Olah is
mentioned before the Chatas does not indicate that it should be offered
first. The Cheshek Shlomo explains that the reason why one should read the
Olah first is because the Mitzvah of the Korban Olah is greater.
He quotes the DA'AS KEDOSHIM who explains this further. We know that part of
the atonement provided by a Chatas is attained when the Kohanim partake of
its meat, as explained in Pesachim (59b). However, the Kohanim's eating
cannot be fulfilled by one's reading of the Parshah; only the part of the
Korban that is given "to Hashem" can be considered by Hashem as having been
fulfilled by our words and thoughts. Consequently, the atonement of the
Korban Chatas is slightly lacking when the Parshah of the Chatas is read, as
opposed to when it is actually brought. A Korban Olah, in contrast, is
burned completely and is thus totally for Hashem, as it were, and,
therefore, it is considered just as effective when the Parshah of the Olah
is read as when the Korban is actually offered. Hence, the reading of the
Olah takes precedence over the reading of the Chatas. This is Rava's
understanding of Rebbi Eliezer's teaching. (Y. Montrose)
90b
2) YESTERDAY'S "SHELAMIM" AND TODAY'S "CHATAS"
OPINIONS: The Mishnah discusses which Korbanos take precedence over other
Korbanos with regard to the consumption of their meat. One case discussed is
when the meat of a Korban Shelamim that was offered the previous day (the
meat of a Shelamim is eaten for two days, and for the night between them) is
available at the same time as the meat of a Chatas that was slaughtered on
that day. Which meat should be eaten first? Rebbi Meir says that the
previous day's Shelamim should be eaten first, while the Rabanan say that
the Chatas takes precedence, because it is Kodshei Kodashim.
The Rabanan's reasoning is clear. What, though, is the reasoning of Rebbi
Meir for giving precedence to the meat of the Shelamim?
(a) The correct text of RASHI (DH Shelamim, see CHOK NASAN for the Girsa
found in the Kisvei Yad of Rashi) says that the Shelamim should be eaten
first because it is degrading to leave over the meat of the Shelamim, which
will start to change shape and spoil as it gets older. The meat of the
Chatas, which is freshly slaughtered, will remain fresh for longer and,
therefore, is not degraded by leaving it over in order to eat other meat
first.
(b) TOSFOS (DH Shelamim) argues that this novel explanation is not
necessary. There is a much more basic way of understanding the reasoning of
Rebbi Meir. The Shelamim of yesterday may be eaten only until nightfall of
today. The Chatas -- which was freshly slaughtered today -- may be eaten for
the entire day and the entire night that follows (the Rabanan enacted that
it may not be eaten past midnight, but it still may be eaten for longer than
the Shelamim). Therefore, it is perfectly understandable that one should eat
the Korban with the earlier expiration time first, which is the Shelamim.
The YA'AVETZ, who has the Girsa of Rashi as it appears in our text, says
that he has no idea why Tosfos learns that Rashi means that the meat will
become misshaped and spoiled. The text of Rashi that we have reads that the
Mishnah is not discussing cases of taking precedence in eating, but rather
it is continuing its discussion of which Korbanos should be *offered* first.
The Mishnah is saying that when two of the same Korbanos are brought to the
Beis ha'Mikdash, everyone agrees that the one that arrived first is offered
first. The question arises when one brings a Shelamim to the Beis ha'Mikdash
on one day, and he was not able to offer it on that day. The next day, a
different person brings a Chatas to the Beis ha'Mikdash, and now they are
both waiting to have their Korbanos offered. Which Korban is offered first?
Rebbi Meir says that the Shelamim is offered first, since it physically
arrived in the Beis ha'Mikdash before the Chatas. The Rabanan argue that
Kodshei Kodashim always take precedence, even when the Kodshim Kalim arrived
earlier. (However, as we mentioned above, the Chok Nasan says that the
correct text of Rashi is the Girsa that Tosfos had, and thus Tosfos'
understanding of Rashi is consistent with his text of Rashi's words.)
The KEREN ORAH points out that the wording of the Mishnah is certainly more
compatible with the explanation of Rashi according to Tosfos' Girsa than
with the explanation in our Girsa of Rashi. The Mishnah states that the
rules of precedence that apply with regard to the offering of Korbanos also
apply with regard to the eating of the meat of Korbanos. This wording
strongly implies that the cases that follow are dealing with the new subject
of eating Korbanos, and not with offering them.
However, the Keren Orah rejoins, the Gemara later (91a) implies that the
explanation of the Mishnah is indeed like our text of Rashi. The Gemara
discusses the Mishnah's first statement that a Korban which is Tadir (more
frequent) is offered before one that is not Tadir. The Gemara attempts to
prove this principle from the case that we are discussing, a case involving
a Shelamim from yesterday and a Chatas from today. It seems that the
Machlokes Tana'im regarding which one comes first applies only when the
Shelamim was brought yesterday. The Gemara says that this implies that if
they were both from the same day, the Chatas would be first. According to
our Girsa of Rashi, this proof makes sense. The Gemara understands that if
the Shelamim were also brought today and slaughtered first, before the
Chatas, then the Chatas would still be attended to first while another Kohen
stirs the blood of the Shelamim so that it not congeal while waiting its
turn to be offered. Rashi (DH Ha) explains that we know that a Chatas is
more Kadosh than a Shelamim, and should, therefore, be offered first. If the
Shelamim is mistakenly offered first, the Mishnah implies that the Chatas
should be given precedence and the Shelamim put on hold. If this is true
with regard to a Korban which is more Kadosh, then it should also be the
case when a less frequent Korban (Eino Tadir) is slaughtered before a more
frequent Korban (Tadir).
However, according to Tosfos, who says that the Gemara is discussing the
precedence of *eating* the meat of the Korbanos, what does the Gemara mean
when it says that the Mishnah implies that if both the Shelamim and Chatas
were from the same day, then the Chatas would be first? According to Tosfos,
the fact that one should eat the Chatas first is because it has an earlier
time of expiration! This case seems to have no bearing on which Korban
should be *slaughtered* first. The same difficulty applies to the
explanation of Rashi according to the Girsa of Tosfos; it also seems to have
no bearing on which Korban should be offered first. (The Keren Orah
discusses this at length, giving a possible refutation to his proof.) (Y.
Montrose)
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