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1) MATZLIF

(a) Question: What is Matzlif?
(b) Answer: R. Yehudah demonstrated the motion of giving lashes.
(c) The Haza'os (even the "upper" one) were not *on* the Kapores (only the position of his hand differentiated between the upper and lower Haza'os).
(d) Question: How do we know that the Haza'ah was not on the Kapores itself?
(e) Answer: From the extra Lifnei which informs the Al.
(f) Question: Perhaps we should learn the reverse, where the Al informs the Lifnei (and thus have the Haza'ah *on* the Kapores)?
(g) Answer: Such a reversal would "occupy" the LeMa'alah by Par and leave LeMatah by Sair unused.

(a) Question: How many Haza'os Lematah are there by Sair?
(b) Answer: By inference (using Damim) from Par LeMatah we know it is seven.
(c) Question: Perhaps we should derive Sair LeMatah from Sair LeMa'alah?
(d) Answer: It is more logical to compare Matah to Matah.
(e) Question: To the contrary, it is more logical to derive Sair from Sair!?
(f) Answer: From KaAsher Asah we learn to compare Sair to Par.

(a) Question: How many Haza'os Lema'alah by Par?
(b) Answer: Damim links Par to Sair.
(c) Question: Perhaps derive Par LeMa'alah from LeMatah?
(d) Answer: Ma'alah to Ma'alah is more logical.
(e) Question: To the contrary...
(f) Answer: KaAsher Asah.

(a) There is a difference in the Beraisa between the counting as described by R. Meir (one and the number below) versus R. Yehudah (the number below and one).
(b) The difference is based on each one's local counting custom.
(c) Question: But why, according to all, must we count one the one LeMa'alah together with each one LeMatah?
(d) Answer: Either to prevent counting errors (R. Elazar, and the requirement is D'Rabanan) or (according to R. Yochanan) it is D'Oreisa based on Yazeh.

1. Question: When will their answers differ?
2. Answer: In a case where he did not count the LeMa'alah but he also did not err.

(a) We learn from R. Yehudah that there was only one Shofar for Kinei Nedavah, and none for Kinei Chovah, to prevent mixing.
(b) R. Yosi asserts that our concern involves mixing Chovos with Nedavos.
(c) Question (Abaye): Make two Shofaros and mark them!?

(d) Answer: R. Yehudah must not rely on Kesivah.
(e) The same rationale as above will apply to making only one shelf in the Heichal.
(f) Question: But the Mishnah teaches that even according to R. Yehudah there were multiple Shofaros (and there he *must* rely on Kesivah)!?
(g) Answer: The concern of mixing (and why there is no Shofar for Chovah) is (not like R. Yosi said but rather) for a Chatas whose owner may have died.
(h) Question: But the Mishnah teaches that we do not consider such a possibility of death.
(i) Answer: It is actually a Gezeirah lest we find out that an owner *had* died, and we will not know which coins are his.
(j) Question: Then take four Zuz and cast them away!?
(k) Answer: R. Yehudah does not rely on Bereira to permit the Isur.