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Yevamos 80
YEVAMOS 79, 80 - The first two of four Dafim dedicated in honor of
Dr. Charles and Rosalind Neustein, whose retirement to Florida
allows them to spend even more time engaging in Torah study!
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1) WHO IS A SERIS?
(a) Question: How do we know that he was a Seris from birth?
(b) Answer (Abaye): When he urinates, it does not make an
arch.
(c) Question: What causes it?
(d) Answer: His mother baked in the heat of the afternoon,
and drank mixed beer.
1. (Rav Yosef): I had heard my mother say, 'Anyone
stricken from birth' - now I know what she referred
to.
(e) Question: We should be concerned that he got better in
the interim!
(f) Answer: Since he is a Seris at the beginning and the end,
we are not concerned that he was better in the middle.
(g) Question (Rav Mari - Beraisa): R. Chanina Ben Antigonus
says, we check (a firstborn animal with a blemished eye)
3 times within 80 days.
(h) Answer: We are concerned that 1 limb recovered in
between, but not that the entire body did.
(i) (Mishnah): R. Eliezer says, no, rather ...
(j) Contradiction (Mishnah - Beis Hillel): A 20 year old man
that has not brought 2 hairs - he proves that he is 20,
and he is established as a Seris; he does not do
Chalitzah nor Yibum;
(k) A 20 year old woman that has not brought 2 hairs - she
proves that he is 20, and she is established as an
Ailonis; she does not do Chalitzah nor Yibum;
(l) Beis Shamai says, the age for both of them is 18; R.
Eliezer says, for a man, 20; for a woman, 18, since a
woman matures faster.
(m) Answer #1 (Rami Bar Dikuli): R. Eliezer retracted his
opinion.
1. Question: Which did he retract?
2. Answer (Beraisa - R. Eliezer): A Seris Chamah does
Chalitzah, and Chalitzah is done to his wife,
because in Aleksandria, they have a cure for this.
(n) Answer #2 (R. Elazar): R. Eliezer did not retract - the
Mishnah (of 18 and 20 years) refers to the age at which
they are considered adults to be punished for sins.
2) WHEN DOES A SERIS BECOME AN ADULT?
(a) A person ate Chelev between the age of 12 and 18, then
brought signs of being a Seris; later, he brought hairs.
1. (Rav): He becomes an adult retroactively.
2. (Shmuel): He was a minor when he ate.
3. Question (Rav Yosef): According to Rav, R. Meir
should say that there is a fine for one who rapes or
entices an Ailonis!
4. Answer (Abaye): No, she jumps from being a minor to
a Bogeres, and is never a Na'arah.
5. Rav Yosef: If only such teachings would be said in
my name!
(b) (Beraisa): A Seris is not judged as a rebellious son,
because the time to be judged as a rebellious son is
after
(c) the lower beard is completed; an Ailonis is not judged as
an engaged Na'arah, since she goes from being a minor to
a Bogeres.
(d) (R. Avahu): One with signs of being a Seris or Ailonis is
not treated as an adult until 20; a baby born after 8
months of pregnancy is not considered to be alive until
20.
(e) Question: Can an 8 month baby really live?!
1. (Beraisa): An 8 month baby is as a rock; he may not
be moved on Shabbos, but his mother may bend down to
nurse him, because of danger.
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(f) Answer: The case is, his signs are complete.
1. (Beraisa): What is an 8 month baby? One who did not
stay 9 months in the womb; Rebbi says, his signs
demonstrate this - his hair and nails are
incomplete.
i. If they are complete, we assume that he is a 7
month baby that delayed a month before being
born.
(g) Question: There was a case of a woman who gave birth 12
months after her husband went overseas, and Rabah
Tosfa'ah said that the child is Kosher - this is as
Rebbi, who says that a baby may come out late, and unlike
Chachamim!
(h) Answer: Since R. Shimon Ben Gamliel also holds this way,
it is like a majority.
1. (Beraisa - R. Shimon Ben Gamliel): Any child that
lives 30 days is viable (i.e. even if he was born in
the 8th month, we say that he was a 7 month baby
that came out late).
(i) (Beraisa): A Seris Chamah is a 20 year old that did not
bring 2 hairs, even if he brings hairs later. The signs
are:
1. He has no beard.
2. His hair is soft.
3. His skin is smooth.
4. R. Shimon Ben Gamliel: His urine does not foam.
5. Some say - when he urinates, it does not make an
arch;
6. Some say - his seed is watery.
7. Some say - his urine does not decay.
8. Others say - he bathes in winter, and his body does
not give off steam.
9. R. Shimon Ben Elazar: His voice is stricken, and it
cannot be discerned if he is a man or a woman.
(j) An Ailonis is a 20 year old that did not bring 2 hairs,
even if she brings hairs later. The signs are:
1. She has no breasts.
2. Relations are painful for her.
3. R. Shimon Ben Gamliel: She does not have curved hips
as women.
4. R. Shimon Ben Elazar: She has a deep voice, and it
cannot be discerned if she is a man or a woman.
(k) (Rav Huna): One must have all the signs of a Seris to be
a Seris.
(l) (R. Yochanan): Even if he has 1 of them.
1. When he has 2 hairs in the beard, all agree that he
is only a Seris if he has all the signs; they argue
when he lacks 2 hairs in the beard.
(m) Question: But Rabah Bar Avuha said, 'Check Rav Nachman -
if he gives off steam when he bathes, I will marry my
daughter to him' - this was as Rav Huna?
(n) Answer: No, it is even as R. Yochanan - Rav Nachman had a
beard.
3) IF A SERIS DOES YIBUM OR CHALITZAH
(a) (Mishnah): A Seris does not do Chalitzah or Yibum; also,
an Ailonis ...
(b) The case of a Seris is taught, similar to an Ailonis.
1. Just as an Ailonis is due to Heaven, also a Seris.
2. The end of the Mishnah, taught anonymously, is as R.
Akiva, who says that a Seris Adam does Chalitzah,
not a Seris at the hands of Heaven.
(c) (Mishnah): A Seris that did Chalitzah did not disqualify
her ...
(d) Only a Seris disqualifies a Yevamah through relations -
but if another has relations with her, not!
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