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Shevuos 17
SHEVUOS 16-18 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi
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1) THE DELAY FOR WHICH ONE IS LIABLE
(a) Question (Rava): If Reuven (became Tamei and) delayed
leaving the Mikdash less than the time of Hishtachavah
(Tosfos - but at least the time needed to leave the
Azarah and re-enter), is he lashed?
1. Does the time of Hishtachavah apply only to the
obligation to bring a sacrifice, but not to lashes?
2. Or, does it apply to anyone that became Tamei in the
Mikdash, both regarding a sacrifice and lashes?
(b) This question is not resolved.
(c) Question (Rava): If Reuven (became Tamei and) suspended
himself in the air above the Azarah, what is the law?
1. Does the time of Hishtachavah apply only to someone
who could bow (but someone who could not bow is
exempt)?
2. Or, does it apply to anyone Tamei in the Mikdash,
whether or not he can bow?
(d) This question is not resolved.
(e) Question (Rav Ashi): If Reuven intentionally became Tamei
in the Mikdash, what is the law?
1. Does the time of Hishtachavah apply only to someone
who became Tamei through Ones (but if he
intentionally became Tamei, he is liable even if he
delays less than this)?
2. Or, does it apply to anyone Tamei in the Mikdash,
whether he became Tamei through Ones or not?
(f) This question is not resolved.
(g) Question (Rav Ashi): A Nazir in a cemetery who delays
leaving - if he delays less than the time of
Hishtachavah, is he lashed?
1. Was the time of Hishtachavah taught only regarding
the Mikdash?
2. Or, does it apply to anyone who became Tamei through
Ones, in the Mikdash or outside?
(h) This question is not resolved.
2) THE SHORTEST PATH OUT
(a) (Mishnah): If he did not leave on the shortest path, he
is liable; if he left on the shortest path, he is exempt.
(b) (Rava): If he left on the shortest path, he is exempt,
even if he walked heel to toe, even if he took the entire
day to leave.
(c) Question (Rava): If he intermittently pauses and walks,
do the delays join up?
1. Question: Obviously, from Rava's previous law, the
delays do not join up!
2. Answer: No, there he did not delay, rather he was
continuously walking very slowly.
(d) Question (Abaye): If he ran out on a longer path, taking
the amount of time as walking normally on the shortest
path, what is the law?
1. Does the Torah allot a time for him (what he would
need walking normally on the shortest path), he is
exempt if he leaves in this time?
2. Or, is he always liable for taking a longer path and
always exempt if he takes the shortest path?
(e) Answer (Rabah): He is liable for taking a longer path.
(f) Question (R. Zeira): The law is, a Tamei Kohen who served
in the Mikdash is liable to death at the hands of Heaven
- what is the case?
1. In less than the time of Hishtachavah, he cannot
complete an Avodah?
2. If he took the time of Hishtachavah, he is liable to
Kares (for delaying leaving), this already includes
death at the hands of Heaven!
3. If you will say that the Torah allots a time for
him, he is exempt if he leaves in this time, we can
answer;
i. He did Avodah and ran out, all within the
allotted time.
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4. Summation of question: But if he is liable for a
delay (even if he leaves in the time it would
normally take), what is the case?
(g) Answer (Abaye): He left on the shortest path and flipped
a fork (holding limbs burning on the Altar).
1. (Rav Huna): If a non-Kohen flipped a fork, he is
liable to death at the hands of Heaven (because this
is an Avodah).
(h) Question: What is the case of Rav Huna's law?
1. If the limbs would not have been consumed had he not
flipped them, obviously he is liable for Avodah!
2. If the limbs would have been consumed in any case,
he accomplished nothing, why is he liable?
(i) Answer: The case is, the limbs would have been consumed
anyway, but not as soon;
1. Rav Huna teaches that hastening the Avodah is
considered Avodah.
3) ENTERING ABNORMALLY
(a) R. Oshaya: I want to teach a law, but I fear that my
colleagues will object!
1. I say that if one enters a house with Tzara'as
walking backwards, even if he is entirely inside
except for his nose, he is not Tamei - "Veha'Ba El
ha'Bayis", the Torah only speaks of entering
normally.
2. I fear that my colleagues will object: if so, he
should be Tahor even if he totally enters!
(b) Rava: That is no objection - if he totally enters, he is
Tamei, just as vessels inside become Tamei - "Yitma Kol
Asher ba'Bayis"!
1. Support (Beraisa): The roofs of the (chambers of
the) Azarah, may not eat Kodshei Kodoshim there, nor
slaughter Kodshim Kalim;
2. If a Tamei person entered the Heichal through the
roof, he is exempt - "V'El ha'Mikdash Lo Savo", the
Torah only speaks of entering normally.
4) WITHDRAWING FROM A NIDAH
(a) (Mishnah): This is the Mitzvas Ase in the Mikdash to
which the sacrifices for a mistaken ruling (of the great
Sanhedrin which caused most of Yisrael to transgress a
Mitzvah involving Kares) do not apply.
(b) Question: The language implies that the Tana was speaking
about when the sacrifices for a mistaken ruling apply!
(c) Answer: Our Mishnah is a follow-up to a Mishnah in
Horiyos.
1. (Mishnah): Beis Din is not liable for a (mistaken)
Hora'ah on a Lav or Asei in the Mikdash;
i. One does not bring a doubtful guilt-offering
for a Lav or Asei in the Mikdash;
2. Beis Din is liable for a Lav or Asei regarding
Nidah;
i. One brings a doubtful guilt-offering for a Lav
or Asei regarding Nidah.
3. Our Tana teaches that this is the Mitzvas Ase in the
Mikdash to which the sacrifices for a mistaken
ruling do not apply, they do apply to the following
Mitzvah Ase of Nidah:
i. If a woman told her husband during relations
that she felt a flow of blood which makes her a
Nidah, if he withdraws (the Ever) immediately
(while it is still in erection), he is liable
to Kares, because withdrawing it is
pleasurable, just as inserting it.
(d) (Rava citing Rav Huna): If he withdraws immediately, he
must bring two sacrifices, one for relations with a
Nidah, and one for withdrawing.
(e) Question (Rava): What is the case?
1. Suggestion: It was shortly before her Vest (the time
she normally menstruates).
2. Question: Does her husband know the laws?
3. Answer #1: Yes.
i. We understand why he brings a sacrifice for
relations, for he did not intentionally sin, he
expected to finish relations before she became
Nidah.
ii. Objection: Why does he bring a sacrifice for
withdrawing, he sinned intentionally!
4. Answer #2: Her husband does not know the laws.
5. Objection: Why does he bring two sacrifices? (Since
he does not know that it is forbidden to have
relations with her right before her Vest, even when
she told him that she became Nidah, he did not
realize his sin, his transgression of withdrawing is
not a 'new' mistake;) he is like one who unknowingly
ate two olives' worth of Chelev, he only brings one
sacrifice!
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