(Permission is granted to print and redistribute this material
as long as this header and the footer at the end are included.)


ANSWERS TO REVIEW QUESTIONS

prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem

Previous daf

Pesachim 59

Questions

1)

(a) The reason that the Korban Pesach does not proceed the Ketores and Hadlakas ha'Neros (despite the fact that the a Torah writes by it both "ba'Erev" and "Bein ha'Arbayim", whereas only "Bein ha'Arbayim" is used by them) - is because of the Pasuk "Ya'aroch *Oso* Aharon ... me'Erev ad Boker" (written by Hadlakas Neiros), from which Chazal derive 'Oso me'Erev ad Boker, ve'Ein Davar Acher me'Erev ad Boker'.

(b) The Korban Pesach also precedes the Ketores - because the Ketores is compared to Hadlakas Neiros (see question 1b).

2)
(a) The second Beraisa which places the Korban Pesach *after* Hadlakas ha'Neros and the Ketores - learns from "Oso" to preclude only the Ketores, which (in spite of the Pasuk in Ki Sisa "u've'Ha'alos Aharon es ha'Neiros, Bein ha'Arbayim Yaktirenah", which suggests that the Ketores is to be burnt *after* the Hadlakas Neiros) must now be burnt *before* it.

(b) The Tana prefers to preclude the Ketores from proceeding the Hadlakas Neiros rather than The Korban Tamid - because, like Hadlakas Neiros, the Ketores is an Avodas Penim (i.e. it is performed, not in the Azarah, like the Tamid was, but in the Heichal).

(c) We now interpret the Pasuk "u've'Ha'alos Aharon es ha'Neiros, Bein ha'Arbayim Yaktirenah" - to mean that when Aharon kindles the Menorah, the Ketores must already have been sacrificed.

(d) The reason that the Ketores preceded the Tamid shel Shachar - is because the Torah writes by it "ba'Boker, ba'Boker", whereas by the Tamid it writes only "ba'Boker".

3)
(a) A Mechusar Kipurim (a Zav or a Metzora) who needed to bring their Korban at the termination of their extended period of Tum'ah, in order to eat the Korban Pesach - were also permitted to bring their respective Korbanos after the Tamid shel Bein ha'Arbayim.

(b) A Mechusar Kipurim Tovels on the seventh day, and then again on the eighth day before he is permitted to eat Kodesh.

4)
(a) Rebbi Yishmael Be'no shel Yochanan ben Berokah is even more lenient than the Tana Kama - he permits a Mechusar Kipurim to bring his Korbanos after the Tamid, the whole year round.

(b) A Mechusar Kipurim over-rides the Din of Hashlamah on Erev Pesach (according to everyone) - because the Asei of bringing the Korban Pesach carries with it a penalty of Kares, which the Asei of Hashlamah does not. So it is a case of a more stringent Asei over-riding a less stringent one.

(c) Ravina quoting Rav Chisda explains why the Asei of Mechusar Kipurim the whole year round (when there is no Kares), over-rides that of Hashlamah - by establishing Rebbi Yishmael Be'no shel Rebbi Yochanan ben Berokah by a Chatas ha'Of of a Metzora Ani - which is eaten by the Kohanim without any of it being brought on the Mizbei'ach, in which case there is no Isur of Hashlamah (which was only written with regard to bringing a Korban *on the Mizbei'ach* after the Tamid).

5)
(a) Rav Papa establishes Rebbi Yishmael even by a Chatas Beheimah - because, according to him, all he needs to do is to place the animal on the Mizbei'ach, thereby fulfilling the requirement of "ve'Hikrivo Lifnei Hashem" (which subsequently permits the Mechusar Kipurim to eat Kodshim), without contravening the Asei of Hashlamah (which is restricted to *burning* the animal on the Mizbei'ach, and not just to placing it at the side).

(b) An animal does not become Pasul be'Linah as long as it on the Mizbei'ach, even though it has not been sacrificed.

(c) According to Rav Chisda, the Beraisa speaks when he has already brought his Asham.

6)
(a) The Gemara would not dream of suggesting that maybe the Kaparah of the Asham does not prevent him from eating Kodshim - since the main Kaparah ceremony centers around the Asham (when its blood is placed on his thumbs etc.).

(b) The Pasuk "ve'Hikriv es Asher la'Chatas Rishonah" - serves as a Binyan Av for all people who are obligated to bring a Chatas and an Olah, that they must bring the Chatas first (even if it is a Chatas *ha'Of* and an Olas *Beheimah*). In that case, we cannot explain that the Metzora has already brought his Olah (before the Chatas), and the Kashya remains on Rav Chisda 'What about the Olas ha'Of - which *does* go on the Mizbei'ach, but which cannot have been brought yet. How does he now avoid contravening the Asei of Hashlamah?

(c) We learn from the Pasuk "ve'He'elah ha'Kohen es ha'Olah" - 'she'He'elah K'var' (i.e. that since the Torah writes "ve'He'elah" - in the past - instead of "Ya'aleh" in the future - we deduce that Bedieved, if one brought an Olah before the Chatas, he is Yotzei. Consequently, the Beraisa must be speaking when he had indeed brought * the Olah already.

59b---------------------------------------59b

Questions

7)

(a) According to Rav Papa, who says that they place the Chatas Beheimah on the Mizbei'ach overnight, we are not afraid that a Kohen who comes across it, will mistake it for yesterday's Korban, and place it on the Mizbei'ach - because of the principle 'Kohanim Zerizim Hem'.

(b) We learn from ...

1. ... "ve'Hiktir ha'Kohen es ha'Chelev ha'Mizbeichah ... ve'Hayah he'Chazeh le'Aharon u'le'Vanav" - that the Kohanim are not permitted to eat the Chazeh ve'Shok (the chest and the right calf) before the Chalavim have been placed on the Mizbei'ach to burn.
2. ... "ve'Achlu Osam Asher Kupar Bahem" - that the Kaparah of the owner is not complete before the Kohanim have eaten his Chatas ('Kohanim Ochlim, u'Ba'lim Miskaprim'. - Rashi, Amud 1 DH 'be'Sha'r', adds that the Mitzvah of eating Kodshim Kalim [such as the Shelamim] extends to the owner - even if he is a Yisrael).
(c) The Kohen's participation in the Kaparah is only Lechatchilah, answers the Gemara; Bedi'eved, should the meat become Tamei or get lost, the Korban remains valid and the owner's atonement intact. Consequently, in our case (according to Rav Papa) since the Kohen, due to the fact that the Chalavim have not yet been burnt, is unable to eat the meat, Chazal gave it a Din of meat that became Tamei or that got lost, and said that, since there is no option, the Chatas should just be placed on the Mizbei'ach, and that will suffice to permit the Mechusar Kipurim to eat Kodshim, as if it had got lost.
8)
(a) "Lo Yalin Chelev Chagi ad Boker", says Rav Kahana, teaches us that the leftovers of the day's Korbanos may still be placed on the Mizbei'ach all night; whereas from "ve'Hiktir *Aleha* Chelvei ha'Shelamim" we learn that Lechatchilah, all Korbanos must be brought before the Tamid shel Bein ha'Arbayim, and their Chalavim placed on the Mizbei'ach immediately.

(b) we infer from the Pasuk ...

1. ... "Lo Yalin *la'Boker* Zevach Chag ha'Pasach" (Ki Sisa) - that the Pesach (which is a weekday Korban) may continue to be placed on the Mizbei'ach throughout Yom-Tov night.
2. ... "Olas *Shabbos* be'Shabbato" - that one may only burn a Shabbos Korban on Shabbos (or a Yom-Tov offering on Yom-Tov or Shabbos), but not a weekday Korban on Shabbos (or on Yom-Tov).
(c) The two inferences clearly clash - because the first inference permits burning a weekday offering on Yom-Tov, whereas the second one forbids it.

(d) Rav Avahu explains that we have no option but to establish the Pasuk of "ve'Lo Yalin" ... by Erev Pesach that falls on Shabbos, in which case one will be burning a Shabbos Korban on Yom-Tov, which is permitted. This may be a Dochek, but it is acceptable since there is no alternative explanation.

9)
(a) The four Avodos by which a Pesach will become Pasul through a thought of Pigul or she'Lo Lishemo - are the Shechitah, the Kabalas ha'Dam (in a vessel), the Holachas ha'Dam (to the south-western corner of the Mizbei'ach), and the Zerikah (the sprinkling of the blood).

(b) We learn from the Pasuk "Zevach Pesach *Hu*" - that the Pesach must be Shechted etc. with the right Kavanah (Lishemo); otherwise it becomes Pasul (which most other Korbanos do not).

(c) A Pesach *can* become Pasul by a joint Machshavah of Lishemo and she'Lo Lishemo - as we shall now see.

10)
(a) Technically, it is possible to think by one Avodah i.e. that he is performing it Lishemo and she'Lo Lishemo, and it is also possible to think this by two Avodos i.e. that he is performing the Shechitah Lishemo, shall we say, and the Zerikah she'Lo Lishemo (and so with any combination of the four Avodos. There is also another way of explaining Machshavah by two Avodos, as we shall see later. Rav Papa's Sha'leh is to which of these two does our Mishnah refer.

(b) If we are talking about one Avodah, then the author cannot be Rebbi Meir - who says 'Tefos Lashon Rishon', meaning that when (regarding the laws of Kodshim) a person makes two contradictory statements (or has two contradictory thoughts), then it is the first one that is valid. According to him, two conflicting thoughts are indicative that one has retracted, and, in the realm of Kodshim, one cannot retract (even immediately).

(c) But if we are talking about two Avodos, then the author can even be Rebbi Meir - because, since the two Machshavos do not clash (since one pertains to one Avodah, and the other, to another, Rebbi Meir will agree that both Machshavos will take effect).

(d) Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yossi argue in a case where someone says 'Harei Zu Temuras Olah, Temuras Shelamim': According to Rebbi Meir, the animal is a Temuras Olah; whereas Rebbi Yossi holds that we allow the animal to graze until it becomes blemished. Then it is sold, and with one half of the proceeds the owner must buy an Olah, and with the other, a Shelamim.

Next daf

Index


For further information on
subscriptions, archives and sponsorships,
contact Kollel Iyun Hadaf,
daf@shemayisrael.co.il