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1) A FATHER IMPOSING VOWS ON A SON

(a) Answer: Rather, Chanina said, if my father cannot make me a Nazir (because I am a full adult), I accept Nezirus on myself.

1. If he brought 2 hairs before his father made him a Nazir - he is a Nazir because of his own acceptance.
2. If he brought 2 hairs after finishing Nezirus - he was a Nazir because of his father.

(b) Question: What if he brought 2 hairs during the Nezirus?

1. We understand according to R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah, who holds that a man can make his son a Nazir until the age of vows.

i. If the father's Nezirus started, it does not cease when the son reaches the age of vows.

2. But according to Rebbi - the father's Nezirus ceases if he brings 2 hairs - he should also have to conduct as a Nazir because of his own acceptance!

(c) Answer: Yes - according to Rebbi, he must act as a Nazir twice (if the hairs came in the middle).

(a) (Mishnah): A son can shave on his father's money (that was designated for the sacrifices he brings when he shaves), but not a daughter;

1. Reuven's was a Nazir; he set aside money for shaving and died. His son said, I accept Nezirus on condition that I shave on father's money - R. Yosi says, he may not shave on this money, it goes to Nedavah (to buy communal burnt-offerings);
2. If Reuven and his son were both Nezirim, and Reuven designated money and died, his son may shave on the money. (Tosfos - many texts say, in the former case he may shave, not in the latter case).

(b) (Gemara): What is the source that only a son may shave on his father's money?
(c) Answer (R. Yochanan): This is s tradition from Moshe from Sinai.
(d) Objection: This is obvious - the son inherits the father, not the daughter!
(e) Answer: The tradition is needed for a girl with no brothers.

1. One might have thought, the law applies to any heir - we hear, this is not so.

(f) Question #1: Do other Tana'im argue on R. Yosi?
(g) Question #2: If others argue - do they argue on law 1 (when the son accepted Nezirus posthumously), or on law 2 (he was a Nazir in his lifetime)?
(h) Answer ((to both questions) Beraisa - R. Yosi): The case of a man that shaves on his father's money if he accepted Nezirus after his father died;

1. If he and his father were Nezirim, and his father died, if his father designated money, it goes to Nedavah; (This text fits nicely with the text Tosfos brought earlier).

(i) R. Eliezer, R. Meir and R. Yehudah say, this (latter) is the case of one that shaves on his father's money.
(j) Question (Rabah): If 2 sons are Nezirim, what is the law?

1. May the 1st one to shave use all the money?
2. Or, are they heirs, and each may shave with the half he inherits?

(k) Question #1 (Rava): (If they are as heirs,) if one of the brothers is a firstborn (who inherits a double portion), what is the law?

1. Does the tradition say that each shaves on half?
2. Or, does each shave on the amount he inherits?
3. Question #2 (Rava): If each shaves on what he inherits - is this regarding Chulin, or even Kodshim?

i. Does he only get to buy sacrifices from his extra share, but the meat (after they are offered) is split equally?
ii. Or, since he gets a double share to buy sacrifices, he also gets a double share of the meat?

(l) Question #1: If his father is an eternal Nazir, and he is a standard Nazir, or vice-versa - may he shave on his father's money?

1. Does the tradition only apply to standard Nezirus?
2. Or, is there no distinction?
3. Question #2 (Rav Ashi): If there is no distinction - if his father is a Tamei Nazir, and the son is Tahor, or vice-versa - may he shave on the money?
4. This question is unresolved.