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Nazir, 12
NAZIR 12 (30 Tishrei) - l'Iluy Nishmas ha'Ga'on Rav Gedalya Rabinowitz (of
Manchester and, towards the end of his life, Bnei Brak), well-remembered for
his spirited Shi'urim that kindled many a heart with the fire of Torah.
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1) APPOINTING A "SHALI'ACH" TO DO SOMETHING THAT THE "MESHALE'ACH" CANNOT DO
QUESTION: The Gemara says that a person cannot appoint a Shali'ach to do an
act that he himself is not yet able to do. Therefore, a person cannot
appoint a Shali'ach to betroth to him a woman -- who is presently married to
someone else -- after she gets divorced.
TOSFOS and the ROSH ask that according to this, it should be impossible to
give one's flour to a Shali'ach in order for the Shali'ach to make it into
dough and to separate Chalah for that dough. Chalah can only be separated
from dough and not from flour, and hence Chalah cannot be separated at the
time that the Shali'ach was appointed (since the dough was not yet made).
RABEINU TAM answers that one can make a Shali'ach to separate Chalah in such
a case, since it is in one's ability to take other dough from one's house
and to separate Chalah on one's flour. It is enough that the Chalah has been
made into dough, even though the rest is still flour, since it is "b'Yado,"
in one's ability, to make the rest into dough.
However, Tosfos cites another Gemara (Yevamos 52a) regarding giving a Get to
one's wife, which seems to contradict this. The Gemara there says that a
person can tell a scribe to write a Get for his wife who is an Arusah, so
that he may give the Get after he marries her and she becomes a Nesu'ah. The
Gemara explains that the reason for this is that it is b'Yado, in his
ability, to divorce her now, even before the Nesu'in, and therefore he can
have the Get written now even though he only plans on using it after she
becomes a Nesu'ah. The Gemara says that it cannot be proven from this case
that a Yavam can tell a scribe to write a Get for his Yevamah before doing
Yibum with the intention of using it after he performs Yibum, since it is
not b'Yado to divorce her now (he must either do Yibum or Chalitzah). As
Tosfos points out, it *is* in the ability of the Yavam to perform Yibum with
the Yevamah (since Yibum can be performed against her will), and
nevertheless this does not allow the Yavam to appoint a Shali'ach to write a
Get for his Yevamah. Even though it is b'Yado to marry her through Yibum and
then give her a Get, it does not allow him to appoint a Shali'ach to write a
Get for the Yevamah. Why does b'Yado not give him the ability to appoint a
Shali'ach in this case, just like it does in the case of appointing a
Shali'ach for Hafrashas Chalah?
ANSWERS:
(a) The AVNEI MILU'IM (#35) and the ORACH MISHOR understand that Tosfos
indeed rejects his original suggestion based on the proof we cited from the
Gemara in Yevamos. Tosfos concludes that "b'Yado" does *not* allow a person
to appoint a Shali'ach to make flour into dough and then to separate Chalah.
"B'Yado" only allows a person to separate Chalah himself before the flour is
made into dough and fit for Hafrashas Chalah, but it does not allow him to
appoint a Shali'ach to do it. He can only appoint a Shali'ach if the flour
is fit for taking Chalah right now. According to this, Tosfos never answers
his question how one is able to appoint a Shali'ach to knead dough and then
separate Chalah.
(b) However, the KEREN ORAH here and RAV SHIMON SHKOP (Sha'arei Yosher 6:17)
note that this does not seem to be the simple reading of Tosfos. The entire
point of Tosfos is to justify the practice of appointing a woman to make
dough and separate Chalah. Since Tosfos does not end with a question, it
seems that Tosfos successfully justifies the practice.
Instead, they explain Tosfos like the MISHNEH L'MELECH (Hilchos Ishus 9:6),
the VILNA GA'ON (YD 327) and REBBI AKIVA EIGER (Teshuvos 141) who explain
that Tosfos indeed answered his question. Since a person could separate
Chalah from dough on behalf of flour, he could appoint a Shali'ach to
separate Chalah on flour. What Tosfos proves from Yevamos is simply that if
the person who appointed the Shali'ach would not have been able to separate
Chalah from dough on behalf of the flour, then he would not have been
permitted to appoint a Shali'ach to separate Chalah for him just because he
(the Meshale'ach) could have kneaded the dough himself. The Meshale'ach must
be able to actually separate Chalah at the moment that he appoints the
Shali'ach, and not that it just be b'Yado to knead the dough now and then to
separate Chalah.
However, REBBI AKIVA EIGER (in Gilyon ha'Shas) and the KEREN ORAH ask that
if this is what Tosfos means, then why may a Yavam not appoint a scribe to
write a Get for his Yevamah, since he himself could write a Get for his
Yevamah, since it is b'Yado for him to do Yibum with her and then divorce
her?
The KEHILAS YAKOV (#3) answers that "b'Yado" does not allow a Yavam to write
a Get for his Yevamah, because "b'Yado" only serves to remove the problem of
"Davar she'Lo Ba l'Olam" -- one is writing a Get for a woman who is not yet
married to him. When a man writes a Get before the woman is married to him,
there is a second problem: it is not considered to be written Lishmah since
the Get cannot take effect at the time it is written. (See also RAV ELAZAR
MOSHE HOROWITZ.) "B'Yado" does not remove this second problem, and therefore
a Yavam cannot write the Get by himself nor can he appoint a Shali'ach to
write it. However, the Gemara in Yevamos implies that if the Yavam appoints
a Shali'ach to write the Get, even *after* the Yavam marries the Yevamah,
the scribe cannot write the Get. At this point, however, there is no lack of
Lishmah, since the Yevamah is already married. It must be that one cannot
appoint a Shali'ach because of "Davar she'Lo Ba l'Olam," since he appointed
the Shali'ach at a time when the woman was not yet married, and hence we see
that "b'Yado" does not remove the problem of "Davar she'Lo Ba l'Olam" with
regard to *appointing a Shali'ach* to make something take effect on a "Davar
she'Lo Ba l'Olam." "B'Yado" only allows the person himself to make something
take effect on a "Davar she'Lo Ba l'Olam." (See also SHA'AREI YOSHER, ibid.,
who suggests a different approach.)
2) APPOINTING A SHALI'ACH TO SEPARATE CHALAH FOR UNKNEADED FLOUR
QUESTION: Tosfos writes that one may appoint a Shali'ach to separate Chalah
from dough even before the dough is made, while it is still flour, since it
is "b'Yado" ("within his ability") of the owner of the flour to take another
piece of dough that is already kneaded and separate Chalah from that dough
on behalf of the flour, so that the Hafrashas Chalah will take effect after
the flour is kneaded into dough.
This solves the problem that if it is not in his ability to exempt this
flour from Chalah, he could not appoint a Shali'ach to do so; here, it *is*
in his ability to exempt the flour by separating Chalah from a different
piece of dough on behalf of the flour. How, though, could the owner of the
flour (the Meshale'ach) appoint a Shali'ach to make part of the flour --
after it is kneaded into dough -- into Chalah and to separate it on behalf
of the rest of the dough? It was not in the ability of the Meshale'ach to
make part of the flour into Chalah at that moment since it was not yet
kneaded into dough, so how can he appoint someone else to do it? (OR
SAME'ACH, Hilchos Terumos 5:9; NODA B'YEHUDAH in DORESH L'TZION, Derush #13
and footnote there)
ANSWER: The CHASAM SOFER explains that the Meshale'ach does not have to
appoint the Shali'ach to separate Chalah *from this flour* in particular. He
just appoints him to separate Chalah, and then the Shali'ach may choose
whatever he wants to make into Chalah for the Meshale'ach, even if it is not
fit to be made into Chalah at the time of the appointment of the Shali'ach.
The owner of the flour could certainly separate Chalah himself from any
dough that he has in the house, and therefore he can appoint a Shali'ach to
make Chalah from any of his dough.
The question of Tosfos was how a person can appoint a Shali'ach to exempt a
particular measure of flour from Chalah (by separating Chalah for it) when
that measure of flour was not yet able to have Chalah separated for it.
Tosfos answers that it *is* possible to separate Chalah for it even while it
is flour.
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