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Prepared by R. Yakov Blinder of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) HAIRCUTS FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not cut his hair, as derived from a Pasuk
in the Torah.
(b) Question: May a Menudeh and Metzora cut their hair?
(c) Answer: A Beraisa explicitly says no. (It also says that
if a Menudah dies during his Niduy a large stone is
placed over his casket.)
2) WRAPPING OF THE HEAD FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner must wrap his head with a kerchief (see Tosafos
21a why this is not done any more), as derived from
Yechezkel.
(b) Must a Menudeh wrap his head?
1. The Gemara attempts to bring a proof that he must from
a Beraisa that deals with people who have fasted for
rain but did not have their prayers answered. "They
must sit with their heads wrapped like Menudim and
mourners."
2. The proof is rejected, because in that case the people
are Menudim from Hashem Himself, and this is a more
serious type of Niduy.
(c) A Metzora must wrap his head, as it says clearly in the
Torah.
3) TEFILIN FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not put on Tefilin (see below, 21a, for
details), as derived from Yechezkel.
(b) May a Menudeh put on Tefilin? The question remains
unanswered.
(c) May a Metzora put on Tefilin?
1. The Gemara attempts to bring a proof from a Beraisa
that discusses the Torah's law that a Metzora must
be "Pore'a" his head. R. Eliezer says this means
that he must grow his hair. R. Akiva says it means
he may not put something ON his head. The Gemara
thinks that this "something" is Tefilin.
2. The proof is rejected. The "something" might be just a
hat or head ornament.
4) GREETINGS FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not give a greeting (see below, 21b, for
details), as derived from Yechezkel.
(b) May a Menudeh give a greeting?
1. The Gemara attempts to bring a proof from the above
Beraisa (2:b:1) that deals with people who have
fasted for rain. "They must not greet each other."
2. The proof is rejected on the same grounds as it was in
2:b:2.
(c) May a Metzora give a greeting?
1. A Beraisa states clearly that he may not.
2. Question: The Beraisa seems to imply that a Menudeh
may also not give a greeting, so why do we not use
it as a proof for Menudeh?
3. Answer: The Beraisa does not necessarily carry this
implication about the Menudeh.
5) TORAH LEARNING FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not study Torah, as derived from Yechezkel.
(b) May a Menudeh study Torah?
1. A Beraisa states explicitly that he may learn or teach
Torah. (However, a Muchram [more serious than a
Menudeh] may only learn by himself but not teach or
be taught by others.)
(c) May a Metzora study Torah?
1. A Beraisa states explicitly that he may study Torah.
6) LAUNDERING FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not launder his clothes, as derived from
Sefer Shmuel.
(b) May a Menudeh and a Metzora launder their clothes?
1. A Beraisa states explicitly that they may not.
7) RIPPING CLOTHES FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner must rip his clothing, as derived from the
Torah.
(b) Must a Menudeh rip his clothing? No answer is given.
(c) A Metzora must rip his clothing, as the Torah says
explicitly.
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8) TURNING THE BED OVER FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner must turn his bed over (see Tosafos 21a why
this is not done any more). Bar Kappara explains the
symbolism behind this act.
(b) Must a Menudeh and a Metzora turn their beds over? The
question remains unanswered.
9) WORK FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not do work, as derived from a Pasuk.
(b) May a Menudeh do work?
1. The Gemara attempts to bring a proof from a Beraisa
that states that people fasting for rain must
refrain from work (except at nights) and must do
several other mourning-like actions, "and the same
goes for a mourner and a Menudeh." The Gemara thinks
that the clause "the same goes for... Menudeh"
applies to refraining from work.
2. The proof is rejected, because the clause may be
referring to the other mourning-like actions
mentioned there.
3. Another Beraisa states specifically that he may do
work.
(c) May a Metzora do work? The question remains unanswered.
10) BATHING (AND ANOINTING THE SKIN WITH OIL) FOR A MOURNER, A
MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not bathe (or anoint his skin with oil), as
derived from Sefer Shmuel.
(b) May a Menudeh bathe?
1. The Gemara attempts to bring a proof from a Beraisa
that states that people fasting for rain must
refrain from bathing (except for hands, face and
feet) and must do several other mourning-like
actions, "and the same goes for a mourner and a
Menudeh." The Gemara thinks that the clause "the
same goes for... Menudeh" applies to bathing.
2. The proof is rejected, because the clause may be
referring to the other mourning-like actions
mentioned there.
(c) May a Metzora bathe? The question remains unanswered.
11) WEARING SHOES FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A Mourner may not wear shoes, as derived from Yechezkel.
(b) May a Menudeh wear shoes?
1. The Gemara attempts to bring a proof from a Beraisa
that states that people fasting for rain must not
wear shoes (except when on the road) and must do
several other mourning-like actions, "and the same
goes for a mourner and a Menudeh." The Gemara thinks
that the clause "the same goes for... Menudeh"
applies to wearing shoes.
2. The proof is rejected, because the clause may be
referring to the other mourning-like actions
mentioned there.
(c) May a Metzora wear shoes? The question remains
unanswered.
12) MARITAL RELATIONSFOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) Marital relations are forbidden to a mourner, as derived
from the book of Shmuel.
(b) May a Menudeh engage in marital relations?
1. The Gemara attempts to prove that he may, from the
fact that the while the Israelites were wandering in
the desert they were considered Menudim, and yet
they obviously engaged in marital relations.
2. The proof is rejected because perhaps a Menudah by
Hashem Himself is not the same (it is less serious)
as a regular Menudeh.
3. This rejection is based on a line of reasoning which
is the exact oppisite of that employed above
(2:b:2). The idea is that since it cannot be
established with certainty which (if either) kind of
Niduy is more strict than the other - regular
Menudeh or Menudeh to Hashem - no conclusion may be
drawn in either direction.
(c) May a Metzora engage in marital relations?
1. The Gemara proves that he may not, from a Beraisa that
says: "A Metzora must be like a Menudeh and a
mourner, forbidden to engage in marital relations."
2. Question: Since the Beraisa says "like a Menudeh...
forbidden to engage in marital relations," can we
derive that a Menudeh is also forbidden to engage in
marital relations?
3. Answer: No, perhaps the two statements are disjointed:
For one thing, he must be like a Menudeh, and for
another thing he may not engage in marital
relations.
13) SACRIFICES FOR A MOURNER, A MENUDEH AND A METZORA
(a) A mourner may not offer a sacrifice, as derived from the
Torah.
(b) May a Menudeh offer a sacrifice?
1. The Gemara attempts to prove that he may, from the
fact that the while the Israelites were wandering in
the desert they were considered Menudim, and yet
they offered sacrificies.
2. The proof is rejected as above, 12:b:2.
(c) May a Metzora offer a sacrifice?
1. The Gemara proves that he may not, from a Beraisa in
which R. Yehudah and R. Shimon disagree about the
interpretation of a Pasuk in Yechezkel, but they
both agree to the same basic principle: A sacrifice
may be offered only by someone who is himself
permitted to enter the Temple (which a Metzora is
not).
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