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Menachos 92
MENACHOS 92 (12 Teves 5764) - dedicated by Gitle Bekelnitzky and daughters
to honor the first Yahrzeit of Joel Bikelnitzky, Reb Yoel Yitzchak ben
Shraga Feivish, affectionately known as "Feter Yoel" to everyone in Crown
Heights. Beloved uncle of Layah Bergman (Chicago IL), Zahava Mandel
(Cedarhurst NY), and Sima Weinstock (Kew Gardens Hills, NY)
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1) TO WHICH "KORBANOS" DOES "SEMICHAH" APPLY?
(a) (Mishnah): Semichah does not apply to Korbanos Tzibur,
except for Par He'elam Davar (brought for mistaken
Hora'ah) and Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach (the goat sent to
Azazel on Yom Kipur);
(b) R. Shimon says, it also applies to Se'irei Avodah Zarah
(brought for mistaken Hora'ah about idolatry).
(c) Semichah applies to all Korbanos Yachid, except for
Bechor, Ma'aser and Pesach.
(d) If one inherited a Korban, he brings it and does
Semichah, brings the Nesachim and can make Temurah.
(e) (Gemara - Beraisa - R. Shimon): Semichah does not apply
to Korbanos Tzibur, except for Par He'elam Davar and
Se'irei Avodah Zarah;
(f) R. Yehudah says, Semichah does not apply to Se'irei
Avodah Zarah - in place of them, it applies to Se'ir
ha'Mishtale'ach.
1. Interjection: Why must it apply to something else?
2. Answer (Ravina): There is a tradition that Semichah
applies to two Korbanos Tzibur.
(g) R. Shimon: The Ba'alim (those who get atonement through a
Korban) must do Semichah, but the Kohen Gadol is Somech
on Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach (even though it does not atone
for him, therefore, this is not counted among the two
Semichos.)
(h) R. Yehudah: Indeed, the Se'ir atones for the Kohen Gadol!
(i) (R. Yirmeyah): This is like R. Shimon and R. Yehudah hold
elsewhere:
1. Version #1 - Rashi - (Beraisa - R. Yehudah):
"V'Chiper (the Kohen Gadol sprinkles the blood of
the bull and inner goat to atone for Teme'im who
entered the following places) Es Mikdash ha'Kodesh"
- the Kodesh ha'Kodoshim; "Ohel Mo'ed" - the
Heichal; "ha'Mizbe'ach" - the Altar; "Yechaper" -
this is extra, to teach about (entering) the Chatzer
of the Mikdash.
2. Version #2 - Rashi Kesav Yad - (Beraisa - R.
Yehudah): "V'Chiper (the Kohen Gadol sprinkles the
bloods in the following places to atone for Tum'as
Mikdash) Es Mikdash ha'Kodesh" - (between the staves
of the Aron, in) the Kodesh ha'Kodoshim; "Ohel
Mo'ed" - (towards the Paroches, while in) the
Heichal; "Mizbe'ach" - the inner Mizbe'ach;
"Yechaper" - (this is extra, it teaches about
pouring the leftover blood on the base of the
Mizbe'ach which is in) the Chatzer; (end of Version
#2)
i. (The verse continues) "Kohanim...Am ha'Kahal
(Yisraelim) ...Yechaper" (to include Leviyim) -
Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach atones equally for all of
them.
3. R. Shimon says, just as the blood of the inner goat
atones for Yisraelim for Tum'ah (of the Mikdash or
Kodshim), the blood of the bull atones for Kohanim
for Tum'ah of the Mikdash or Kodshim;
4. Just as Viduy (confession) over Se'ir
ha'Mishtale'ach atones for Yisraelim for other
transgressions, Viduy over the bull atones for
Kohanim for other transgressions.
5. Question: Surely, the verse equated the atonement of
Kohanim and Yisraelim - how does R. Shimon explain
this?
6. Answer: Indeed, it teaches that they all get
atonement for Tum'ah and other transgressions;
however, they get atonement through different
sacrifices.
7. Summary: According to R. Yehudah, blood of the inner
goat for Yisraelim, and of the bull for Kohanim,
atones for Tum'ah; Viduy over Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach
atones for all for other transgressions;
i. R. Shimon only argues about atonement for
Kohanim for other transgressions, he says that
this is also through, Viduy over the bull.
8. (Mishnah): Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach atones for
Yisraelim, Kohanim and an anointed Kohen alike.
9. Question: What is the difference between them?!
10. Answer: The bull atones for Tum'ah of Kohanim (and
the inner goat for Tum'ah of Yisraelim.)
11. This is like R. Yehudah.
12. R. Shimon says, just as the blood of the inner goat
atones for Tum'ah of Yisraelim, the blood of the
bull atones for (Tum'ah of) Kohanim;
i. Just as Viduy over Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach atones
for Yisraelim (for other transgressions), Viduy
over the bull atones for Kohanim.
2) "SEMICHAH" FOR "SE'IREI AVODAH ZARAH"
(a) (Beraisa #1 - R. Yehudah): "V'Somchu Ziknei ha'Edah Es
Yadeihem Al Rosh ha'Par" - Par (He'elam Davar) requires
Semichah, Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not.
(b) R. Shimon says, the Zekenim (Sanhedrin) do Semichah on
the Par, not on Se'irei Avodah Zarah, rather, Aharon
(i.e. the Kohen Gadol) is Somech on them.
(c) Contradiction (Beraisa #2 - R. Yehudah): "Ha'Chai" (the
live goat, i.e. Se'ir ha'Mishtale'ach) requires Semichah,
Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not;
(d) R. Shimon says, Aharon is Somech on Se'ir
ha'Mishtale'ach, not on Se'irei Avodah Zarah, rather, the
Zekenim are Somech on them.
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(e) Rav Sheshes: Beraisa #1 is erroneous! R. Shimon requires
the Ba'alim to do Semichah (the Zekenim are considered
Ba'alim of Se'irei Avodah Zarah, they atone primarily for
them!) Rather, it should say:
1. (Corrected text of Beraisa #1 - R. Yehudah): The Par
requires Semichah, Se'irei Avodah Zarah do not;
2. R. Shimon says, Aharon is Somech on the live goat,
not on Se'irei Avodah Zarah, rather, the Zekenim are
Somech on them.
i. R. Shimon told R. Yehudah, 'Se'irei Avodah
Zarah require Semichah - if you heard that they
do not, you heard that Aharon is not Somech on
them, and we learn this from "Ha'Chai" (not
from "ha'Par").'
(f) Question: Why does R. Yehudah need a verse to exclude
Se'irei Avodah Zarah - Ravina taught, a tradition teaches
that Semichah applies to (exactly) two Korbanos Tzibur!
(g) Version #1 - Rashi - Answer: (He holds that) the verse is
not really needed, it is merely an Asmachta.
(h) Version #2 - Rashi Kesav Yad - Answer: (He holds that)
the tradition that Semichah applies to two Korbanos
Tzibur is not from Sinai (he merely heard it from his
Rebbi.)
(i) Question: What is R. Shimon's source that Se'irei Avodah
Zarah require Semichah?
(j) Answer (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): "V'Somach Yado Al Rosh
ha'Sa'ir" - " - this includes Se'ir Nachshon (voluntary
Chata'os of Chanukas ha'Mishkan), they also required
Semichah.
(k) R. Shimon says, it includes Se'irei Avodah Zarah.
(l) Question: According to Ravina, who taught that a
tradition teaches that Semichah applies to two Korbanos
Tzibur, why does R. Shimon need verses?
(m) Answer: The tradition and the verses are both needed:
1. If we only had the verses, one might have thought
that Zivchei Shalmei Tzibur also require Semichah,
from a Kal va'Chomer:
2. (Mishnah - R. Shimon): There are three Korbanos and
three Mitzvos (exactly two Mitzvos apply to each...)
3. Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should teach that
Shalmei Tzibur require Semichah!
i. Shelamim does not require Tenufah mi'Chayim,
yet it requires Semichah - Shalmei Tzibur
require Tenufah mi'Chayim, all the more so they
should require Semichah!
4. Ravina's tradition refutes this suggestion (since we
know that Par He'elam Davar and Se'irei Avodah Zarah
require Semichah, there are no others.)
(n) If we only had the tradition, we would not know which
Korbanos Tzibur require Semichah (in addition to Par
He'elam Davar, in which Semichah is explicit);
1. "V'Somach Yado Al Rosh ha'Sa'ir" refers to a Nasi's
Chatas, which is brought for a sin which became
known - surely, it teaches about a similar Chatas,
i.e. Se'irei Avodah Zarah (and not Zivchei Shalmei
Tzibur or the inner goat. Also. "Ha'Chai" teaches
that the Zekenim do Semichah on Se'irei Avodah
Zarah, not Aharon, so it is considered proper
Semichah.)
3) "KORBANOS" OFFERED WITHOUT "SEMICHAH"
(a) (Mishnah): Semichah applies to all Korbanos Yachid,
except for Bechor, Ma'aser and Pesach.
(b) (The following Beraisa expounds three occurrences of the
word 'Korbano' in Parshas Shelamim.)
(c) (Beraisa): "Korbano" - not a Bechor;
1. Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should have taught that
it requires Semichah! Shelamim is not Kodesh from
birth, yet it requires Semichah - Bechor is Kodesh
from birth, all the more so it should require
Semichah!
2. Rejection: "Korbano" - not a Bechor.
3. "Korbano" - not Ma'aser (Behemah);
4. Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should have taught that
it requires Semichah! Kedushas Shelamim does not
affect other animals (not Mekudash to be Shelamim),
yet it requires Semichah - Kedushas Ma'aser affects
the ninth and 11th animals (if they were called
'Asiri (tenth)', but the 10th was not called Asiri),
all the more so it should require Semichah!
5. Rejection: "Korbano" - not Ma'aser.
6. "Korbano" - not Pesach;
7. Suggestion: A Kal va'Chomer should have taught that
it requires Semichah! Shelamim is voluntary, yet it
requires Semichah - Pesach is obligatory, all the
more so it should require Semichah!
8. Rejection: "Korbano" - not Pesach.
(d) Question: We cannot learn from Shelamim, for it has a
stringency not found in Bechor, Ma'aser and Pesach, it
requires Nesachim and Tenufas Chazah v'Shok!
(e) Answer: The teachings are not really learned from
'Korbano', they are mere Asmachtos.
(f) Question: What do we learn from the three times it says
'Korbano'?
(g) Answer: We learn that Reuven may not Somech on Shimon's
Korban, that Semichah does not apply to a Nochri's
Korban, and that every partner on a Korban must Somech.
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