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Menachos, 91
MENACHOS 91 - This Daf has been dedicated by Rabbi Kornfeld and his staff in
honor of the marriage of Dvorah Chasdeya Feldman to Oren Tzvi Solomon,
tonight in Yerushalayim the Holy City. May they merit to build a Bayis
Ne'eman, which will be a pride and joy to their wonderful families and all
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1) MULTIPLE SETS OF "NESACHIM" FOR MULTIPLE KORBANOS
OPINIONS: At the end of the Gemara's lengthy discussion regarding which
Korbanos and groups of Korbanos require Nesachim, the Gemara asks what Rebbi
Yoshiyah learns from the word "or" ("O") in the verse, "Min ha'Bakar O Min
ha'Tzon" -- "from the cattle or from the sheep" (Bamidbar 15:3). Rebbi
Yoshiyah (90b) learns from the words "from the cattle" and "from the sheep"
that only Korbanos brought from cattle or sheep require Nesachim, excluding
Korbanos brought from birds. He learns the requirement to bring Nesachim
with a cow alone and with a sheep alone (and not that one brings Nesachim
only when bringing *both* a cow and a sheep) from a different verse. What
does he learn from the word "or" in this verse?
The Gemara answers that without the word "or" in the verse, we might have
thought that one is required to bring Nesachim with each animal only when
one brings two different types of Korbanos (such as an Olah and a Shelamim),
but when one brings two Olos or two Shelamim, one set of Nesachim suffices.
The extra word "or" in the verse teaches us that one must bring Nesachim
with every Korban, even if he is bringing two Olos or two Shelamim.
The Gemara then asks what the verse, "Kachah Ta'asu la'Echad" -- "so shall
you do for one" (Bamidbar 15:12), teaches. The Gemara answers that we might
have thought that the only time Korbanos of the same type (such as two Olos)
need two separate sets of Nesachim is when they are brought one after the
other, while two Korbanos of the same type that are brought at the same time
do not need two separate sets of Nesachim and one set suffices. The verse
teaches us that every Korban needs its own set of Nesachim, even two
Korbanos of the same type that are brought at the same time.
This seems to be the same thing that the Gemara earlier derives from a
different verse. What is the new law that the Gemara is deriving?
(a) The YAD BINYAMIN explains that when the Gemara earlier derives that when
one brings two Olos or two Shelamim he must bring a separate set of Nesachim
for each Korban, the Gemara is referring only to when the two Korbanos are
from different types of animals (that is, the two Olos are comprised of one
cow and one sheep). What, though, is the Halachah when both Olos are cows?
Does one set of Nesachim suffice in such a case? The extra word "or" ("O")
in the verse of "Min ha'Bakar O Min ha'Tzon" teaches that even when the
animals are the same type (for example, two cows), each one requires its own
Nesachim.
The Gemara then suggests that perhaps a separate set of Nesachim for
multiple animals that are the same type of Korban is necessary only when
they are not brought at the same time. Perhaps when they are brought at the
same time, though, one set of Nesachim suffices. The verse "la'Echad"
teaches that each and every Korban requires its own set of Nesachim, even
when brought at the same time as other Korbanos of the same type. (This is
the text of the Gemara according to the SHITAH MEKUBETZES.)
The TZON KODASHIM has difficulty with this text of the Gemara. Why would we
have thought that the bringing several animals, of the same type of Korban,
at the same time would exempt one from multiple sets of Nesachim? When the
Gemara earlier says that even two Olos or two Shelamim require multiple
Nesachim, it obviously is discussing a case in which the animals are being
brought at the same time. Why, then, do we need two verses ("O" and
"la'Echad") to teach this?
(b) The Tzon Kodashim therefore concludes that the correct text of our
Gemara should contain only the Derashah from the verse "O." The rest of the
Gemara, from the word "Kachah" until the end of this section is an erroneous
text. This is also the preferred text of the CHOK NASAN (and appears in the
left margin of the Gemara).
The YAD BINYAMIN, though, is uncertain why the Tzon Kodashim understands
that the Gemara's statement earlier that two Olos or two Shelamim require
multiple Nesachim must mean when they are brought simultaneously.
(c) The Tzon Kodashim quotes a third text of the Gemara, according to which
the verse of "O" teaches us that two Korbanos brought simultaneously still
require two sets of Nesachim. The Tzon Kodashim rejects this text for the
same reason he rejects the text of our Gemara. Since the Gemara earlier
already taught that two Korbanos brought at the same time require separate
Nesachim, we do not need the verse of "O" to teach this again. Obviously,
the Yad Binyamin's question on the Tzon Kodashim applies according to this
text as well; according to this text, the Gemara earlier that discusses two
Olos or two Shelamim is discussing two Korbanos that are brought separately,
and not at the same time. The EIZEHU MEKOMAN says that this text appears to
be the text of RASHI (Kesav Yad, DH Hani Mili). (Y. Montrose)
91b
2) A "PILGAS"
OPINIONS: The Gemara asks why we need the verse of "O la'Ayil" -- "or for an
Ayil" (Bamidbar 15:6). RASHI (Kesav Yad, DH la'Ayil) explains that later the
Torah later (Bamidbar 28:12) specifically states that one must bring two
Esronim of Soles along with an Ayil. Why must the Torah state this
measurement twice? (See Rashi DH la'Ayil for an alternative explanation.)
The Gemara answers that this verse is needed in order to include a "Pilgas."
What is a "Pilgas"?
(a) RASHI (Kesav Yad, DH Pilgas) explains that there are three stages in the
development of a ram. Until a ram is twelve months old, it is classified as
a sheep ("Keves"), and *not* as a ram ("Ayil"). When the animal turns two
years old, it is called a ram. However, like many things in Halachah, we do
not actually wait a full two years to call the animal a ram. Once it reaches
thirteen months and one day old, it is considered two years old and is
called a ram. During its thirteenth month, it is neither a sheep nor a ram,
but a "Pilgas." (According to the opinion of Bar Pada later in the Gemara,
this second stage represents merely a doubt whether the animal is a Keves or
an Ayil, and it does not refer to a specific stage of the animal's
development).
(b) The RAMBAM (Hilchos Ma'aseh ha'Korbanos 1:14) writes that the words
"Keves," "Kisbah," or "Kevasim" denote a one year old sheep. The words
"Ayil" or "Eilim" denote animals that are two years old. When exactly is an
animal called an "Ayil"? The Rambam writes that it is called an Ayil "when
it reaches the thirty-first day into its second year. However, on the
thirtieth day, it is still not eligible to be brought as either a Keves nor
as an Ayil, and this is what is called a Pilgas." What does the Rambam mean
when he says "the thirtieth day"?
1. The fact that the Rambam says, "On the thirtieth day... it is called a
Pilgas," and he does not say, "In the thirteenth month... it is called a
Pilgas," indicates that the Rambam maintains that the animal is called a
Pilgas only when it is one year and thirty days old. (This is approach is
suggested in the Hagahos to the SHITAH MEKUBETZES HA'CHADASH (#43).)
2. The RADVAZ and MAHARI KURKAS write that the Rambam agrees with Rashi, who
says that during the entire thirteenth month, it is called a Pilgas. The
Radvaz says that this must be what the Rambam means, because the Mishnah in
Parah (1:3) explicitly states, "A thirteen month old is not valid for [a
Korban that requires] an Ayil, nor for a Keves." He adds that the name
"Pilgas" comes from the word "Palga," or "half," indicating that this animal
is in a middle stage. (See the MELECHES SHLOMO in Parah who says that the
word "Pilgas" is a combination of the words "Plag" -- "divide" and the
letter "Samech," which has a numerical value of sixty. This alludes to the
fact that this animal is in a middle stage for thirty days.)
According to this explanation, why does the Rambam write "the thirtieth
day," when the animal is actually a Pilgas for the entire thirteenth month?
The TIFERES YISRAEL in Parah explains that the Rambam is merely stressing
that even though this animal is only one day short from being called an
Ayil, it still does not qualify as an Ayil and may not be brought as a
Korban.
However, the words of the Tiferes Yisrael seem problematic. It is obvious
that there will be at least one day before this animal is called a ram. Why
would we think that the last day when it is not called a ram should be any
better than any other day when it is not called a ram? There are many things
which alter Halachic status, and the day before the change in status is not
considered to achieve the status that the object will attain tomorrow. (For
example, a boy cannot complete a Minyan on the day before his Bat Mitzvah,
just as he could not complete a Minyan on any of the previous days before
his Bar Mitzvah, when he was a child.)
(c) RABEINU GERSHOM in Chulin (23a) has a different approach. The Gemara
there asks a question about someone who brings a Pilgas as a Korban. In
defining a Pilgas, Rabeinu Gershom says that a Keves is one year old, and an
Ayil is two years old. The Gemara there is asking about one who brings "a
one and a half year old" animal. It appears that Rabeinu Gershom learns that
an animal is called a Pilgas during the entire second year of its life. This
is definitely not like the Mishnah in Parah (1:3). It is possible that
Rabeinu Gershom's explanation is based on a different opinion, which argues
with the Mishnah in Parah (see MINCHAS CHINUCH (299:2), who writes that
there are other opinions besides the Mishnah in Parah on this matter). (Y.
Montrose)
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