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Menachos, 89
1) THE AMOUNT OF OIL REQUIRED FOR THE MENORAH
QUESTION: The Mishnah (88a) states that a measuring vessel that contained a
Chatzi Log was used in the Beis ha'Mikdash for measuring and pouring the oil
for each candle of the Menorah. Each one of the seven candles contained a
Chatzi Log of oil.
TOSFOS (DH Chatzi Log) questions this requirement. Why is it necessary to
have a special Kli Shares for the purpose of measuring and pouring the oil
into the Menorah? The Menorah itself is a Kli Shares, and thus it should
suffice to bring the oil in an ordinary (non-sanctified) vessel, pour it
into the candles of the Menorah, and let the Menorah be Mekadesh the oil!
ANSWERS:
(a) The TZON KODSHIM explains that the amount of oil required for each flame
of the Menorah was based on the largest amount necessary to provide fuel for
the flame throughout the longest nights of the year. In the summertime, on a
short night, there would be more oil than necessary. The Halachah is that a
Kli Shares, such as the Menorah, is Mekadesh only the contents that are fit
to be used. Since each candle of the Menorah is not supposed to contain more
oil than the amount needed to last through night, the Menorah itself cannot
be Mekadesh more than this amount each day. However, a Kli Shares which is
dedicated for the purpose of holding oil for the Menorah in general can be
Mekadesh as much as necessary.
The MINCHAS TEHORAH has difficulty with this explanation. The Halachah that
a Kli Shares cannot be Mekadesh more than the amount that it needs applies
only when the extra amount is not necessary at all, even mid'Rabanan. If,
however, the Rabanan say that the required amount is always a Chatzi Log,
then this amount becomes the appropriate amount for the Menorah to be
Mekadesh!
(b) The KEREN ORAH (88b) answers that everything which is used for an Avodah
in the Heichal must have Kedushah before it enters the Heichal, especially
the oil used for the Menorah. The EIZEHU MEKOMAN explains that the Keren
Orah's intention is that it must be Kadosh with Kedushas ha'Guf before it
enters the Heichal.
(c) The YA'AVETZ challenges Tosfos' question. It is obvious that the oil
must be placed into a Kli Shares before being poured into the Menorah, since
it is forbidden to bring items that are Chulin into the Azarah, as Tosfos
himself states earlier (80b, DH v'Chi)!
The YASHAR V'TOV rejects the contention of the Ya'avetz. Tosfos himself
states earlier (80b, DH v'Chi) that as long as the items brought into the
Azarah are Kadosh with Kedushas Bedek ha'Bayis (Hekdesh), there is no
prohibition against bringing them into the Azarah. Accordingly, Tosfos'
question in our Gemara remains (assuming that the oil was already made
Hekdesh before it was brought to the Menorah).
The CHAZON ISH (Menachos 30:7) explains Tosfos' question in an entirely
different manner. The Mitzvah of the Menorah is that there should be a flame
burning, not that one has to make an "oil offering." This means that the
requirement to give the item Kedushas ha'Guf by placing it into a Kli Shares
does not apply to the oil used for the Menorah, as it applies to all other
items that are used as Korbanos. (The Eizehu Mekoman reinforces this
question based on the opinion of the RAMBAM (Hilchos Bi'as ha'Mikdash 9:7)
that the lighting of the Menorah is not an Avodah, and it is valid even when
performed by a non-Kohen. This shows that the oil used for the Menorah
certainly is not considered a Korban of an oil offering.) Accordingly, it
should suffice to dedicate the oil verbally, without placing it in a Kli
Shares, in order for it to attain Kedushas ha'Guf. Why, then, is a Kli
Shares necessary for the oil? This is the question of Tosfos, according to
the understanding of the Chazon Ish. (Y. Montrose)
89b
2) MIXING "NESACHIM"
OPINIONS: The Mishnah states that one may mix the Nesachim of Parim (cows)
with the Nesachim of Eilim (rams), and the Nesachim of different Kevasim
(sheep) with each other. One may not mix the Nesachim of Kevasim with those
of Parim and Eilim. If the Nesachim of each animal was stirred and then
became mixed with the Nesachim of another animal, the Nesachim are valid. If
they became mixed before being stirred, they are Pasul.
The Gemara has difficulty with the simple understanding of the Mishnah's
words. The verse says, "v'Hiktiru" -- "and they will burn" (Vayikra 3:5),
which teaches that one may not mix up the fats of different animals. The
Gemara understands that this applies to all Korbanos, and therefore it asks
that Nesachim also should not be able to be mixed l'Chatchilah. Abaye
answers that when the Mishnah discusses mixing up Nesachim of different
animals, it is referring only to mixing the wine of the Nesachim, but not
the flour and oil. The Mishnah is saying that when the flour and oil were
already brought, one may mix the wine l'Chatchilah. If the flour and oil
were not yet brought, and they became mixed up, one may also mix the wines.
If they did not become mixed up, then one may not mix the wines.
What is the interpretation of the Mishnah according to Abaye?
(a) RASHI (Kesav Yad) throughout the Sugya explains that Abaye maintains
that the verse of "v'Hiktiru" prohibits the mixing of the flour and oil of
different Menachos. The Menachos are valid b'Di'eved when mixed only when
they were stirred individually before they were combined. The Mishnah does
not differentiate between the Nesachim of Kevasim, Eilim, or Parim. If the
Menachos were offered already or were mixed together after being stirred
individually, then one may mix the wines as well. If the Menachos have not
been mixed, then it is forbidden to mix the wine. The only reason why the
Mishnah states that the Nesachim of Kevasim that are mixed with the Nesachim
of Parim and Eilim are Pasul is because the Menachos were combined *before*
each one was stirred individually, and not because the Nesachim of different
types of animals are incompatible. Consequently, the wine belonging to each
Korban similarly may not be mixed with the wine of the other Korban, and one
must bring different flour and oil to replace the Menachos that are Pasul,
and one may not mix the wine together.
The requirement of "v'Hiktiru" applies to the burning of the flour and oil,
but not to wine. Why, then, may one not mix the wine of the Nesachim of
different animals? The Gemara explains that the wine may not be mixed
together before the flour and oil have been mixed together, because
onlookers might think that it is also permitted to mix the flour and oil as
well. However, when the flour and oil have already been offered or mixed,
there is no suspicion that people will learn from the mixing of the wine
that one may also mix Menachos.
(b) RASHI gives a similar explanation, with one apparent difference (DH
Me'arev Nami). Rashi explains that when the Mishnah states (in the second
case) that one may not mix the Nesachim of Kevasim with those of Parim and
Eilim, it is not referring to where the oil and flour were already mixed
together. (According to Rashi Kesav Yad, the reason why it is Pasul in such
a case is because the actual Menachos were mixed together and are therefore
Pasul.)
The KESEF MISHNEH (Hilchos Temidin u'Musafin 10:15-20) is bothered by
Rashi's explanation. If Rashi understands that the Mishnah is stating simply
that when the Menachos were not mixed together, one may not mix the wine,
then why does the Mishnah say altogether that one may not mix the Nesachim
of different animals? One may not even mix the Nesachim of two of the same
type of animal, since it is prohibited l'Chatchilah to mix wine from
different Korbanos!
1. The Kesef Mishneh writes that the text of Rashi must be emended to read
that the case of Nesachim from different animals is "*even* where the oil
and flour were already mixed together." According to the Kesef Mishneh,
Rashi understands that the Nesachim of Kevasim and Parim may not be mixed
even after the Menachos themselves were mixed *after* being individually
stirred. This is a unique stringency that applies to a mixture of different
types of Korbanos.
2. The LECHEM MISHNEH leaves the text of Rashi unchanged. He explains that
Rashi understands that only when the type of Korban is different do we say
that one may not mix wine, because one might come to mix the flour and oil
as well, transgressing the verse of "v'Hiktiru." However, this Gezeirah does
not apply when the Korbanos are the same type.
(c) The BARTENURA explains the Mishnah in a straightforward way. The Mishnah
is saying that one may mix the *Menachos* of similar types of animals as
long as they have a equal ratio of oil to flour. Since Parim and Eilim both
have a ratio of two Lugin to one Isaron of flour, they may be mixed. In
contrast, Kevasim, which have a ratio of three Lugin to one Isaron, may not
be mixed with the Nesachim of Parim and Eilim. Mixing Kevasim with either
Eilim or Parim would alter the required constitution of the Menachos, and is
therefore prohibited.
However, as the TOSFOS YOM TOV points out, this explanation does not seem to
take into account the Gemara's conclusion that the Mishnah is discussing the
mixing of the *wine* and not the Menachos. The Tosfos Yom Tov rebukes the
Bartenura and comments that while it is acceptable to explain a Mishnah
according to the most straightforward explanation, one may do so only when
writing a commentary on Gemara (that is, when one is Rashi). When one is
writing a commentary on the Mishnayos alone, he must explain the Mishnah
according to the conclusion of the Gemara. (Y. Montrose)
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