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1) THE CASE OF A "SHINUY KODESH" OF A MINCHAH OFFERING
QUESTION: The Mishnah states that any Minchah offering that had its Kemitzah
taken she'Lo Lishmah is valid, but does not fulfill the owner's obligation.
What is a case of taking the Kemitzah of a Minchah offering she'Lo Lishmah?
RASHI explains (based on the Gemara later on 2b), "Such as when one pledged
to bring a Minchas Marcheshes, and he brought it and the Kohen separated a
Kemitzah and said, 'I am hereby taking a Kemitzah for the sake of a Minchas
Machavas.'" This is the Shinuy Kodesh of a Minchah offering to which the
Mishnah refers.
The KEREN ORAH explains why the example of a Shinuy Kodesh for Menachos is
different than the Shinuy Kodesh for Zevachim (animal offerings), as
discussed at the beginning of Zevachim. The Shinuy Kodesh for Zevachim is
when one offers a Korban Olah, for example, with intention that it is a
Korban Shelamim. That is, there is a change in the essence of the Korban.
Each Korban has its own unique Kedushah and purpose, and intending that one
type of Korban should serve as a different type is a Shinuy Kodesh. This
form of Shinuy Kodesh, however, does not apply to Menachos, because the four
types of Minchah offerings are essential the same, with the same Kedushah.
The difference between them is merely the type of utensil which is used and
how the flour is cooked or fried. Despite this significant difference
between offerings of Zevachim and offerings of Menachos, we learn from a
Hekesh that the same Halachah of Shinuy Kodesh that applies to Zevachim
applies also to Menachos, and, therefore, intent to offer one type of
Minchah as another type of Minchah, even though the only difference between
them is the means of preparation, still constititutes a Shinuy Kodesh.
However, it seems that there *is* a case of Shinuy Kodesh of Menachos that
is exactly the same as Shinuy Kodesh of Zevachim! This case is when the
Minchah is brought not as an independent offering (a Minchas Nedavah), but
rather as a Minchah that comes together with a normal Korban -- a Minchas
Nesachim. If one offers a Minchas Nesachim of a Korban Olah with intent that
it is a Minchas Nesachim of a Korban Shelamim, this should constitute the
same type of Shinuy Kodesh that Zevachim have! Since each Minchas Nesachim
has the Kedushah and provides the Kaparah of the Korban with which it is
offered, a Shinuy Kodesh of this type of Minchah is exactly like a Shinuy
Kodesh of the Korban itself! Why does Rashi (or the Gemara) not give this
case as an example of Shinuy Kodesh of Menachos? Why are we forced to learn
that there is a new type of Shinuy Kodesh, wherein even a change that does
not affect the Kedushah of the offering (but changes the offering to another
type of Minchah that merely was prepared differently) is also considered a
Shinuy Kodesh? (NEZER HA'KODESH)
ANSWERS:
(a) The NEZER HA'KODESH) answers that since a Minchas Nesachim is brought
together with a Korban and is subordinate to the Korban, it is not subject
to independent intentions. That is, when the Korban itself is offered with
the proper intent, Lishmah, that intent establishes the purpose of the
Minchah as well and it can no longer be changed. Therefore, there is no case
of a Shinuy Kodesh for a Minchas Nesachim (whether from a Minchas Nesachim
of one type of Korban to that of another type of Korban, or from a Minchas
Nesachim to a Minchas Nedavah).
(b) The CHAZON ISH (Teshuvos #32) argues with the Nezer ha'Kodesh. According
to the Chazon Ish, a Minchas Nesachim does *not* acquire the Kedushah of the
Korban with which it is offered, and it is not considered part and parcel of
that Korban. The Korban is the cause for bringing it, but the Minchas
Nesachim itself is an independent Korban and it has its own unique Kedushah
of Minchas Nesachim.
Therefore, if one brings a Minchah of a Korban Olah with intent that it is a
Minchah of a Korban Shelamim, this does not constitute a Shinuy Kodesh,
because all of the Menachos that are brought with the different Korbanos
have the same Kedushah of Minchas Nesachim, and they are prepared in exactly
the same manner. This is why the Gemara is forced to say that there is a new
type of Shinuy Kodesh, wherein having intent to offer one type of Minchas
Nedavah as another type of Minchas Nedavah indeed constitutes a Shinuy
Kodesh, even though the only difference between the various types of Minchas
Nedavah is their manner of preparation.
(We may ask, though, that according to the Chazon Ish, why does the Gemara
not say that the case of Shinuy Kodesh of Menachos is bringing a Minchas
Nedavah with intent that it is a Minchas Nesachim, or vice versa.)
(Mordechai Zvi Dicker)
2b
2) A RECOGIZABLE "MACHSHAVAH"
QUESTION: RASHI (DH Aval Machshavah) explains that a Machshavah, intent to
offer a Korban as a different type of Korban than the one for which it was
originally designated, that is recognizable to everyone as being false is
not considered a Machshavah and does not disqualify a Korban Minchah. Rashi
adds that when we discuss a "Machshavah" with regard to Kodshim, this refers
to a verbal expression of a thought.
Rashi points out that from the fact that the Gemara calls an obviously false
Machshavah a "Machshavah that is recognizable," we see that with regard to
Kodshim, a Machshavah means a verbal declaration of the thought, because it
is the verbal declaration that makes the falseness of a Machshavah to be
recognizable.
Other Rishonim (TOSFOS SHANTZ cited by the SHITAH MEKUBETZES to Bava Metzia
43b, and SEFER HA'ESHKOL, Hilchos Shechitas Chulin #13) also prove from the
Gemara here that a Machshavah with regard to Kodshim must be verbally
expressed in order to be considered an effective Machshavah.
However, there are other Rishonim (RAMBAM, SEFER HA'CHINUCH; see Insights to
Zevachim 2:1) who seem to maintain that a thought alone suffices as a valid
Machshavah with regard to Kodshim, and it does not need to be expressed
verbally. How do those Rishonim understand the Gemara here? If the
Machshavah is merely a cognition, and not an articulated expression, in the
Kohen's mind, then how can it be considered a "Machshavah that is
recognizable?" Even if it needs to be recognizable only to the Kohen who has
the Machshavah, how is a mental cognition without any verbal expression
recognizable?
ANSWER: The answer seems to be that even the Rishonim who maintain that
Machshavah alone suffices agree that the Machshavah is valid only because it
has the strength and validity of a Dibur, a spoken statement. The STEIPLER
GA'ON (Zevachim 1:2) proposes that even if a Machshavah alone is effective,
it is not effective if the Kohen had an unarticulated thought in his mind
that he is offering this Korban for a different purpose than that for which
it was designated. Rather, the Kohen must *mentally articulate* the words in
his mind in order for the thought to be effective. He must say *in his mind*
the words, "I hereby am slaughtering this animal for the sake of a Korban
Olah," for example, or "I hereby am slaughtering this animal for the sake of
Shimon." This is similar to the other places in the Torah where Machshavah
is effective, such as when making an animal a Temurah, or when separating
Terumah. In those cases, one certainly must mentally articulate his
intention in his mind. Accordingly, the power of the Machshavah is that it
is considered as if words were actually spoken. Therefore, the Rishonim who
maintain that a Machshavah alone suffices will agree that the Machshavah
must be comprised of acceptable words in order for it to have validity.
The necessity for the Machshavah to be expressed in words (either mentally
or orally, according to the different views of the Rishonim) can be
understood as follows. The Gemara in Zevachim (2b) says that a Korban that
is offered without specific intent is considered to have been offered
Lishmah and is valid. Even when there is a mere thought of Lo Lishmah, that
Machshavah does not change the "Setama Lishmah" status of the Korban. Only
when he articulates the Lo Lishmah intention (either mentally or orally,
depending on the views of the Rishonim) does the Torah then say that his
Dibur has the power to invalidate the Korban. (See footnotes to Shitah
Mekubetzes to Menachos 2b, #6.) (Mordechai Zvi Dicker)
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