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Kidushin 62
KIDUSHIN 61-65 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi
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1) DOUBLE SIDED CONDITIONS
(a) We understand according to R. Chanina "If a man did not
lie with you...Hinaki (you will be blessed)" (we infer,
if she had adultery, she will be cursed).
1. Question: According to R. Meir, it should also say,
'If you lied with a man, Chinaki (you will be
choked'!
2. Answer: Since "Hinaki" is written without a Yud, it
also hints at 'Chinaki'.
(b) We understand according to R. Meir why "Hinaki" is
written without a Yud (as above).
1. Question: According to R. Chanina, why was this
necessary - we can infer, if she lied with a man,
she will be choked!
2. Answer: One might have thought, if a man did not lie
with her, she will be blessed; if she lied with a
man, even though she transgressed, she will neither
be blessed nor cursed - we hear, this is not so.
(c) We understand according to R. Meir "He will become
purified (sprinkled) with (the water of the red heifer)
on the third day and the seventh day", "If he will not
become purified...";
1. Question: According to R. Chanina, why was this
necessary?
2. Answer: One might have thought, l'Chatchilah, he
should be sprinkled on the third and seventh days;
b'Di'eved, if he was sprinkled on one of them, he
becomes Tahor - we hear, this is not so.
3. Question: Why must it say "The Tahor one will
sprinkle on the Tamei one on the third day and the
seventh day"?
4. Answer: If we only had the first verse, one might
have thought that it says "third" and "seventh" to
exclude the second and sixth days, for not enough
time has elapsed from when he became Tamei;
i. But if he was sprinkled on the third and eighth
days, there are more days since the Tum'ah, he
would be Tahor - we hear, this is not so.
5. Question: Why does it say "He will purify him on the
seventh day"?
6. Answer: One might have thought, to eat Kodshim, he
must be sprinkled on the third and seventh days; to
eat Terumah, it suffices to be sprinkled on one of
them - we hear, this is not so.
2) SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE DONE NOW
(a) (Mishnah): A man was Mekadesh a woman. He was mistaken
regarding her lineage (a Bas Kohen or a Bas Levi) or
regarding her wealth (rich or poor) - she is Mekudeshes,
since she did not trick him;
(b) If a man, currently, cannot be Mekadesh a certain woman,
Kidushin will not take effect even if he stipulates that
it should only take effect *after* the obstacle to
Kidushin is removed, namely:
1. After he converts or is freed;
2. After she converts or is freed;
3. After the death of her husband or her sister
(David's wife);
4. After she does Chalitzah.
5. Similarly: Reuven told Shimon, 'If your wife gives
birth to a girl, she is Mekudeshes to me' - she is
not Mekudeshes.
(c) (Gemara - Mishnah): We cannot separate picked produce to
be Terumah on attached produce, nor vice-versa;
b'Di'eved, it does not take effect.
(d) Question (Rav Asi): Picked fruits of this patch should be
Terumah on the attached fruits of this patch (or
vice-versa) when they are picked - does this work (after
they are picked)?
(e) Answer (R. Yochanan): Anything a person can do (such as
picking the fruits), it does not hinder things if he has
not done it.
(f) Question (Mishnah): Kidushin does not work even if he
stipulates that it should take effect after he or she
converts or is freed, after the death of her husband or
her sister, or after she does Chalitzah.
1. Granted, the last cases are not in his control - but
in the first case, he can convert if he wants!
(g) Answer: No, he cannot convert at will.
1. (R. Chiya bar Aba): Conversion must be in front of a
Beis Din of 3.
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2. Question: Why is this?
3. Answer: Conversion is called Mishpat, just as
monetary judgments.
4. (Summation of answer): A non-Jew cannot convert
whenever he wants - perhaps he will not find a Beis
Din of 3.
(h) Question (R. Aba bar Mamal): If so - if Reuven is
Mekadesh his Shifchah to take effect after Reuven frees
her, it should work (since he can free her at will)!
(i) Answer: No - a Shifchah's acceptance of Kidushin (even
with intent that it should work for after freedom) is
meaningless.
(j) Suggestion: R. Yochanan would argue on R. Oshiya's law.
1. (R. Oshiya): Shimon gave his wife a Perutah and said
'You are Mekudeshes to me after I will divorce you'
- she is not Mekudeshes.
(k) Rejection: No - granted, Shimon can divorce his wife, but
he cannot Mekadesh her again without her consent.
(l) Suggestion: We can resolve R. Oshiya's question.
1. Question (R. Oshiya): Reuven gave 2 Perutos to Leah
and said 'You are Mekudeshes to me today with 1
Perutah, and you are Mekadesh to me with the other
Perutah after I will divorce you' - does the second
Kidushin work?
2. Since he cannot Mekadesh her again without her
consent, he cannot stipulate to do this!
(m) Rejection: No - perhaps, once he is able to Mekadesh her
now, he is also able to Mekadesh her for after divorce.
3) EARLY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT
(a) Support (for R. Yochanan - Beraisa): We cannot separate
picked produce to be Terumah on attached produce;
b'Di'eved, it does not take effect.
1. The case is, he said 'Picked fruits of this patch
should be Terumah on the attached fruits of this
patch (or vice-versa)' this has no effect;
2. If he said, they should be Terumah when they are
picked, it works (after they are picked).
3. R. Eliezer ben Yakov says, even if he said 'Picked
fruits of this patch should be Terumah on the
attached fruits of this patch (or vice-versa) after
they grow to a third of their full growth and are
picked', this works.
(b) [Version #1 (Rabah): R. Eliezer ben Yakov only said this
if the grain has already grown enough to be used as
fodder;
(c) (Rav Yosef): He said this even if it is Agam (soft
sproutings).
(d) Question: From where do we know that Agam means something
which can be bent?
(e) Answer: "Will a man bend his head as an Agmon (hook)?"
(f) Question: Does R. Chanina (brought below) hold as Rabah
or as Rav Yosef?
1. (Mishnah): Reuven told Shimon, 'If your wife gives
birth to a girl, she is Mekudeshes to me' - this has
no effect.
2. R. Chanina: If Shimon's wife is pregnant (and gives
birth to a girl), the daughter is Mekudeshes.
(g) Answer: If R. Chanina holds as Rabah - she must be
visibly pregnant; if as Rav Yosef - even if she is not
visibly pregnant.]
(h) [Version #2 (Rabah): R. Eliezer ben Yakov holds (that one
can stipulate that Terumah should take effect after the
grain grows) if it is mature enough to be used as fodder
- only in a field nourished solely by rain, but not in a
field that needs irrigation (for it is common that such
fodder will not develop into grain);
(i) (Rav Yosef): R. Eliezer ben Yakov holds (if it is mature
enough to be used as fodder) even in a field that needs
irrigation.
(j) Question: Does R. Chanina hold as Rabah or as Rav Yosef?
1. (Mishnah): Reuven told Shimon, 'If your wife gives
birth to a girl, she is Mekudeshes to me' - this has
no effect.
2. R. Chanina: If Shimon's wife is pregnant, the
daughter is Mekudeshes.
(k) Answer: It must be, she is visibly pregnant; R. Chanina
can hold as Rabah or as Rav Yosef.]
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