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Kidushin 58
KIDUSHIN 58 (13 Tamuz) - Dedicated by Chaim Ozer & Rena Shulman of
Teaneck, New Jersey, in memory of his grandmother, Rebbetzin
Chiena Kossowsky Z"L, an extraordinary Tzadekes and Melumedes,
who passed away on 13 Tamuz 5755 on her 82nd birthday.
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7) THE SALE OF THINGS FORBIDDEN TO BENEFIT FROM
(a) (Mishnah): If he sold (any of these) and was Mekadesh
with the money, she is Mekudeshes.
(b) Question: From where do we know this?
(c) Answer: The Torah taught by idolatry "You will be Cherem
(condemned) as it" - whatever you will make of (exchange
for) it, it is as the idolatry (and you may not benefit
from it).
1. Inference: By other things the Torah forbids, one
may use what he receives in exchange for them.
(d) Question: Why don't we learn from idolatry to other
prohibitions?
(e) Answer: Idolatry and Shemitah are two verses, one of
which could have been learned from the other, so we do
not learn from them.
(f) Question: What is the source regarding Shemitah?
(g) Answer: "It is Yovel, it will be Kodesh to you" - just as
Kodesh imparts a prohibition to money exchanged for it,
also Shemitah produce.
(h) Suggestion: Just as Kodesh imparts a prohibition (to
money exchanged for it) and it itself becomes permitted,
also Shemitah produce.
(i) Rejection: "It will be" - the Shemitah produce remains
forbidden.
1. One who buys meat with Shemitah produce - when the
time of Bi'ur comes, both must be eradicated;
2. If he bought fish with the meat - the fish gets the
sanctity of Shemitah in place of the meat;
3. If he bought wine with the fish - the wine gets the
sanctity of Shemitah in place of the wine;
4. The rule is - the last thing bought is as Shemitah,
and the original Shemitah produce retain the law of
Shemitah.
(j) Question: This fits the opinion that we may not learn
from two verses, one of which could have been learned
from the other.
1. The opinion that says that we may learn - how does
he know that she is Mekudeshes with money from the
sale of other forbidden things?
(k) Answer: The Torah wrote "For it (idolatry) is Cherem",
and "It is Yovel" - only these things impart a
prohibition to what they are exchanged for.
8) TOVAS HANA'AH
(a) (Mishnah): A man, even if he is not a Kohen or Levi, was
Mekadesh with any of the following - she is Mekudeshes:
1. Terumos, Ma'aseros or gifts of a Chulin animal that
are given to a Kohen;
2. Water or ashes of the red heifer.
(b) (Gemara) Ula: Tovas Hana'ah (the right to decide to whom
one will give gifts) is not considered to have monetary
value.
(c) Question (Rava - Mishnah): A man, even a Yisrael, was
Mekadesh with Terumos, Ma'aseros or gifts - she is
Mekudeshes.
(d) Answer (Ula): The case is, the Yisrael inherited Tevel
(untithed produce) from his mother's father (who was a
Kohen);
1. Ula holds that we considered the gifts to have been
separated from Tevel (so it is as if the grandfather
(and later the Yisrael) fully owned them, not just
the Tovas Hana'ah).
(e) Question (R. Chiya bar Avin): Is Tovas Hana'ah considered
as money?
(f) Answer (Rav Huna - Mishnah): A man, even a Yisrael, was
Mekadesh with Terumos, Ma'aseros or gifts - she is
Mekudeshes.
(g) Question (R. Chiya bar Avi): But we established the case
to be a Yisrael that inherited Tevel from his mother's
father!
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(h) Rav Huna: You are a Hotza'ah.
(i) R. Chiya bar Avin was embarrassed - he though Rav Huna
meant that he distorts things.
1. Really Rav Huna meant that R. Chiya holds as Rav Asi
of Hutzal.
(j) Suggestion: The following Tana'im argue whether Tovas
Hana'ah is as money.
1. (Beraisa - Rebbi): Reuven stole Shimon's Tevel - he
must pay the value of Tevel;
2. R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah says, he pays the value of
the Chulin one keeps from the Tevel.
3. Suggestion: Rebbi says that he also pays the Tovas
Hana'ah because (Shimon lost the privilege to give
the Terumah and Ma'aseros to whom he wanted, and)
this is as money; R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah says he
does not pay it, for it is not as money.
(k) Rejection #1: All agree, Tovas Hana'ah is not as money;
the case is, Shimon inherited Tevel from his grandfather
(a Kohen);
1. They argue whether we consider gifts to have been
separated from Tevel - Rebbi says that we do (so it
is as if Shimon's grandfather (and later Shimon)
fully owned them); R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah says that
we do not.
(l) Rejection #2: All agree that gifts are considered to have
been separated from Tevel, and Tovas Hana'ah is not as
money; they argue regarding Shmuel's law.
1. (Shmuel): One who separates a single blade of wheat
as Terumah - this exempts the entire harvest.
2. Rebbi holds as Shmuel (therefore, Shimon could have
given a miniscule amount of Terumah, so we do not
deduct the 2% or so that people usually give as
Terumah);
3. R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah argues on Shmuel (he holds,
one must separate at least 1 part in 60 of Terumah,
so Reuven need not pay for this).
(m) Rejection: #3: Both do not hold as Shmuel; letter of the
law, the thief should not have to pay for the amount that
Shimon would have had to give the Kohen;
1. Rebbi holds that we fine the thief to pay for it.
(n) Rejection: #4: Both hold as Shmuel; letter of the law, we
should not deduct from Reuven's liability the amount of
Terumah that would have been separated;
1. R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah holds that we deduct it to
penalize Shimon for having delayed separating
Terumah.
9) TAKING PAYMENT FOR MITZVOS
(a) (Mishnah): A man was Mekadesh with water or ashes of the
red heifer - she is Mekudeshes.
(b) Contradiction (Mishnah): One who takes wages for a
Mitzvah - the Mitzvah is invalid;
1. Regarding a judge or witness - his
judgment/testimony is invalid;
2. To sprinkle the water of the red heifer, or to
sanctify the water with the ashes - the water and
ashes do not Metaher.
(c) Answer (Abaye): One may take (and Mekadesh) with wages
for the exertion of transporting and drawing the water;
one may not take (or Mekadesh) with wages for sprinkling
or sanctifying.
1. Support: Our Mishnah says that one may Mekadesh with
the water and ashes of the red heifer, that Mishnah
speaks of sprinkling and sanctifying.
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10) DEVIOUS KIDUSHIN
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven told his friend (Shimon) 'Go Mekadesh
Plonis to me'; Shimon went and was Mekadesh Plonis to
himself - she is Mekudeshes to him;
(b) Similarly: Reuven told Leah 'You are Mekudeshes to me
after 30 days'; Moshe was Mekadesh her during the 30 days
- she is Mekudeshes to Moshe;
1. If Moshe is a Kohen and Leah is a Bas Yisrael, she
may eat Terumah.
(c) Reuven told Leah 'You are Mekudeshes to me from now and
after 30 days'; Moshe was Mekadesh her during the 30 days
- she is Mekudeshes and not Mekudeshes;
1. If he is a Kohen and she is a Bas Yisrael, or he is
a Yisrael and she is a Bas Kohen, she may not eat
Terumah.
(d) (Gemara): Reuven told his friend...
(e) (Beraisa): Shimon's Kidushin takes effect - but he acted
as a swindler.
1. Our Mishnah agrees - when it says that 'he went', it
means, he went with deceit.
(f) Question: Why does our Mishnah say that he told his
friend, and a precious Mishnah (50A) said that he told an
agent (to Mekadesh a woman in a certain place)?
(g) Answer: In each case, it shows a bigger Chidush.
1. In our Mishnah, one might have thought that it is
only considered deceit if an agent is Mekadesh
Plonis to himself, for a man relies on an agent, but
not if he asks a friend;
i. We hear, this is not so - even by a friend, it
is deceit.
2. In that Mishnah, one might have thought that only by
a friend, if he is Mekadesh in a different place,
she is not Mekudeshes, for he did not expect his
friend to exert himself to find her anywhere else
(and therefore he is only authorized to Mekadesh her
where he specified);
i. But one expects an agent to exert himself, one
might have thought that he merely suggests
where to find her, but the agent is authorized
to Mekadesh her anywhere - we hear, this is not
so.
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