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Kidushin 54
KIDUSHIN 51-55 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi
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1) TO WHAT DOES ME'ILAH APPLY?
(a) (Rav): There is only 1 case where R. Meir says that if
Hekdesh is used unintentionally, it remains Hekdesh, and
if used intentionally, it becomes Chulin - this is the
(service) garments of the Kohanim which have not worn
out.
1. This is because the Torah allows them to benefit
from them - they are not as angels that could
instantaneously remove them after serving in the
Mikdash!
(b) (Beraisa - R. Meir): Garments of the Kohanim which have
worn out - Me'ilah applies to them.
(c) Suggestion: Really, this is true even if they didn't wear
out.
(d) Rejection: No, only if they wore out.
(e) (Beraisa - R. Meir): One transgresses Me'ilah by using
new (this year's) Shekalim (that were given to buy
communal sacrifices), not with old Shekalim;
1. R. Yehudah says, Me'ilah applies even to old
Shekalim.
2. R. Meir is consistent with another of his teachings,
that Me'ilah does not apply to Shekalim that were
left in the chamber (of Shekalim, that were not
taken when we take coins from the chamber to buy
sacrifices).
3. Question: We should say, since people are not angels
and cannot avoid benefiting from the walls and other
needs of Yerushalayim which are financed from the
leftover Shekalim, Me'ilah does not apply to them!
i. (Mishnah): The walls, towers and all needs of
Yerushalayim are financed from the leftover
Shekalim,
4. Correction: The Beraisa should say 'R. Yehudah', not
'R. Meir'.
(f) Question (Beraisa - R. Yishmael bar R. Yitzchak): Stones
of Yerushalayim that came loose - R. Meir says, Me'ilah
applies to them.
(g) Correction: The Beraisa should say 'R. Yehudah', not 'R.
Meir'.
(h) Question: But R. Yehudah holds that Yerushalayim is not
Hekdesh!
1. (Mishnah): One who says 'This item should be as a
lamb (he refers to the daily sacrifice), (or) as the
pen (of Kodshim animals), as the wood (for the
Altar), as the fires (on the Altar), as the Heichal,
as the Altar, as Yerushalayim' (this is as vowing,
the item is forbidden as a sacrifice);
2. R. Yehudah says, one who says 'Yerushalayim', this
does nothing.
3. Suggestion: Perhaps R. Yehudah admits that if he
says 'As Yerushalayim', this is a vow.
4. Rejection: R. Yehudah says, one who says 'As
Yerushalayim', this does nothing - the vow must
equate the item to something offered in
Yerushalayim.
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(i) Answer: Tanaim argue regarding R. Yehudah's opinion (the
Tana of the Beraisa holds that R. Yehudah says that 'As
Yerushalayim' is a vow).
(j) (Ula): R. Meir says that if Hekdesh is used
intentionally, it becomes Chulin; if it is used
unintentionally, it remains Hekdesh;
1. He only says that there is Me'ilah unintentionally
regarding that the transgressor must bring a
sacrifice.
2. Objection: If the Hekdesh remains Hekdesh, why does
he bring a sacrifice?!
(k) (Ravin): R. Meir says that if Hekdesh is used
intentionally, it becomes Chulin; if it is used
unintentionally, it remains Hekdesh;
1. The only time Hekdesh becomes profaned
unintentionally is when it was eaten.
2) HOW DO WE RULE?
(a) (Rav Nachman): The law is as R. Meir regarding Ma'aser,
because an unspecified Mishnah is as R. Meir;
1. The law is as R. Yehudah regarding Hekdesh, because
an unspecified Mishnah is as R. Yehudah.
(b) (Mishnah - Beis Shamai): Revai (fourth year produce) of a
vineyard - one does not add a fifth when redeeming it, it
need not be eradicated at the time of Bi'ur;
1. (Beis Hillel): These laws do apply to it.
(c) (Beis Shamai): One must leave for the poor (from Revai
grapes) Peret and Olelos (grapes that drop during
harvesting, or were not on proper clusters);
1. (Beis Hillel): (These laws do not apply) - the owner
takes all the grapes.
(d) Question: What is the reason of Beis Hillel?
(e) Answer: They learn a Gezeirah Shavah "Kodesh-Kodesh" from
Ma'aser.
1. Just as adding a fifth and Bi'ur apply to Ma'aser,
also to Revai.
2. Beis Shamai do not learn the Gezeirah Shavah.
3. Question: Do Beis Hillel hold as R. Meir or R.
Yehudah regarding Ma'aser?
i. Suggestion: If as R. Yehudah (that Ma'aser is
Chulin) - Revai should also be Chulin, one
should have to leave Peret and Olelos!
4. Answer: Rather, they hold as R. Meir. (Beis Hillel
is considered as an unspecified Mishnah.)
(f) Question: Which unspecified Mishnah is as R. Yehudah
regarding Hekdesh?
(g) Answer (Mishnah): The Gizbar (treasurer of Hekdesh) sent
Reuven to buy something with money (which was Hekdesh).
If the Gizbar remembered (that it was Hekdesh) before
Reuven gave the money to the grocer, the grocer will
transgress Me'ilah when he spends the money.
(h) Question: But there is also an unspecified Mishnah as R.
Yehudah regarding Ma'aser!
1. (Mishnah): One who redeems his Ma'aser Sheni must
add a fifth, whether he grew it or it was given to
him as a gift.
2. Question: As whom is this Mishnah?
i. Suggestion: If as R. Meir - but he holds,
Ma'aser Sheni is considered Hash-m's, it cannot
be given as a gift!
3. Answer: Rather, it is as R. Yehudah.
4. Rejection: Really, it is as R. Meir; untithed
produce was given as a gift, and the receiver
separated Ma'aser Sheni from it.
i. R. Meir holds, we do not consider tithes to be
separated until they actually are separated.
(i) (Mishnah): One who redeems his Revai must add a fifth,
whether he grew it or it was given to him as a gift.
(j) Question: As whom is this Mishnah?
1. Suggestion: If as R. Meir - but he holds, Revai is
as Ma'aser Sheni (because of the Gezeirah Shavah),
which is considered Hash-m's, it cannot be given as
a gift!
(k) Answer: Rather, it is as R. Yehudah.
(l) Rejection: Really, it is as R. Meir; the grapes were
given before they were ripe;
1. He does not hold as R. Yosi, who says that unripe
grapes are considered as grapes regarding Orlah (and
Revai).
(m) (Mishnah): A man did Meshichah on Ma'aser Sheni (to buy
it) when the value was 1 Sela, but he did not redeem it
until the value was 2 Sela'im - he acquires it for 1
Sela, it is his.
(n) Question: As whom is the Mishnah?
1. Suggestion: If as R. Meir - he holds, Ma'aser is as
Hash-m's - "He will give the money", (then) "It will
be to him" (2 Sela'im should be needed to redeem
it)!
(o) Answer: Rather, it is as R. Yehudah.
1. The law is as R. Meir because 2 unspecified
Mishnayos are as R. Meir, only 1 is as R. Yehudah.
2. Question: That is no reason to decide that the law
is as R. Meir!
3. Answer (Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak): The law is as R.
Meir because a Mishnah in tractate Idiyos is as R.
Meir.
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