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Kidushin 42
KIDUSHIN 41-42 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi
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1) THE SOURCE FOR AGENTS
(a) Question: R. Yonason does not learn as R. Yehoshua ben
Korchah above - what is his source for agents by Kodshim?
1. (R. Yonason) Question: "All of Yisrael will
slaughter (the Pesach sacrifice)" - but only 1
person slaughters!
2. Answer: Rather, this teaches that all of Yisrael can
be partners in 1 Pesach sacrifice (even though
everyone owns less than an olive's worth).
3. Question: This itself shows that agents work by
Kodshim - the answer to question (a) is obvious!
4. Answer: No - from here, we only know that an agent
works when he himself owns a share.
(b) Answer: "Each man will take a lamb for his household".
(c) Question: Perhaps that also only works because the agent
himself owns a share!
(d) Answer: Since we already know that one who owns a share
can be an agent, the verse teaches that even one who has
no share can be an agent.
(e) Question: But we need this latter verse for R. Yitzchak's
law!
1. (R. Yitzchak): A man can acquire on behalf of
others, a minor cannot.
(f) Answer: R. Yitzchak's law is learned from "A man
according to his eating (you will appoint on the lamb)".
(g) Question: But we need this last verse to teach that an
individual can slaughter a Pesach sacrifice to eat it all
himself!
(h) Answer: R. Yonason holds that an individual cannot
slaughter a Pesach sacrifice to eat it all himself.
(i) (Rav Gidal): "One Nasi (for each tribe will acquire a
portion of Eretz Yisrael for his tribe)" - this teaches
that an agent can act on behalf of others.
(j) Question: Why isn't this the source for agents?
1. Counter-question: The Nesi'im could not have been
agents - they also acquired on behalf of minors, who
cannot make agents!
(k) Correction (Rava bar Rav Huna citing Rav Gidal): "One
Nasi" - this teaches that Reuven can acquire to benefit
Shimon, when Shimon is not here.
(l) Question: This cannot be right - the acquisition of
shares of Eretz Yisrael was not beneficial for everyone -
some people prefer land in the valley, others prefer in
the mountain!
(m) Correction (Rava bar Rav Huna citing Rav Gidal): "One
Nasi" - this teaches that if orphans come to divide their
inheritance, Beis Din appoints an overseer for them for
their benefit and detriment.
(n) Objection: Why should we appoint someone for their
detriment?!
(o) Answer: He means, the overseer is empowered to do things
which may have a detrimental result, if their intention
is to benefit the orphans.
2) WHEN A SALE IS INVALID
(a) (Rav Nachman citing Shmuel): When orphans come to divide
their inheritance, Beis Din appoints an overseer for them
and choose a good portion for each one; when the orphans
grow up, they can protest the division.
(b) (Rav Nachman himself): When the orphans grow up, they
cannot protest the division - if they could, Beis Din has
no clout!
(c) Question: But Rav Nachman is not concerned for the clout
of Beis Din!
1. (Mishnah): If Beis Din appraised property (and sold
it) and erred, a sixth above or below the true value
- the sale is invalid;
2. R. Shimon ben Gamliel says, the sale stands - if
not, Beis Din has no clout!
3. (Rav Nachman): The law is as Chachamim.
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(d) Answer: Rav Nachman is concerned for the clout of Beis
Din when they did not err - when they erred, he is not
concerned.
(e) Question: If they did not err, why does Shmuel say that
they can protest the division?
(f) Answer: They did not err regarding the value of the
portions, rather regarding the location (it would have
been better for a particular orphan to get the north
field instead of the south field).
(g) (Rav Nachman): Brothers divided an inheritance; they
erred, some brothers received too much, others too
little. The law is as that of buyers: if the mistake was
less than a sixth of the value - the sale (division)
stands;
1. If the mistake was more than a sixth - the sale is
invalid;
2. If the mistake was exactly a sixth - the sale is
valid, but whoever got too little is compensated.
(h) (Rava): Rav Nachman's laws only apply in the following
situations:
1. When the mistake was less than a sixth of the value,
the sale stands - this is when they acted
themselves;
i. If an agent acted for them, the sale is invalid
- the agent was only appointed to make a proper
acquisition!
2. [Version #1 (Rashi): If the mistake was more than a
sixth, the sale is invalid - this is when they did
not say, 'Let us divide as Beis Din' - if they said
this, the division stands (as R. Shimon ben
Gamliel);
i. (Mishnah): If Beis Din appraised property (and
sold it) and erred, a sixth above or below the
true value - the sale is invalid; R. Shimon ben
Gamliel says, the sale stands.
3. If the mistake was exactly a sixth, the sale is
valid, but there is compensation - this is only by
Metaltelim;
i. By land, there is no law of Ona'ah (to
compensate the one who received too little).
ii. This that there is no law of Ona'ah by land is
when the mistake was in the value - but even a
small mistake in measurement must be
compensated for.]
4. [Version #2 (Tosfos): If the mistake was exactly a
sixth, the sale is valid, but there is compensation
- this is when they did not say, 'Let us divide as
Beis Din' - if they said this, the division is void
(as Chachamim);
i. (Mishnah): If Beis Din appraised property (and
sold it) and erred, a sixth above or below the
true value - the sale is invalid; R. Shimon ben
Gamliel says, the sale stands.
5. If the mistake was more than a sixth, the sale is
invalid - this is only by Metaltelim;
i. By land, there is no law of Ona'ah (to
invalidate the sale);
ii. This that there is no law of Ona'ah by land is
when the mistake was in the value - but even a
small mistake in measurement invalidates the
sale.]
3) AN AGENT TO TRANSGRESS
(a) (Mishnah): One who sends a deaf person, lunatic or minor
with a fire, and they cause damage - Beis Din cannot make
the sender pay, but he is liable at the hands of Heaven;
1. If he sent a proper adult, that adult must pay for
the damage.
(b) Question: Why don't we attribute the agent's action to
the sender?
(c) Answer: We do not say this by an agent to sin - he should
have obeyed Hash-m, not the one who sent him!
(d) (Beraisa): An agent was sent to buy something; the money
he gave was Hekdesh. If he deviated from his mission, he
transgressed Me'ilah;
1. If he fulfilled his mission - the one who sent him
transgressed Me'ilah.
(e) Question: How does the sender transgress through the
agent - we should say, sins are not attributed to the
sender!
(f) Answer: Me'ilah is an exception - we learn a Gezeirah
Shavah "Chet-Chet" from Terumah.
1. Just as one can make an agent by Terumah, also
regarding Me'ilah.
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