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Kidushin 7
KIDUSHIN 7-10 - Dedicated by an admirer of the work of the Dafyomi
Advancement Forum, l'Iluy Nishmas Mrs. Gisela (Golda bas Reb
Chaim Yitzchak Ozer) Turkel, A"H.
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1) WHO MAY GIVE AND RECEIVE THE MONEY
(a) (Rava): A woman told a man: Give money to Ploni, and I
will be Mekudeshes to you - we learn from the law of a
guarantor that this works.
1. A guarantor obligates himself (to pay a loan, if the
lender does not), even though he does not benefit -
also a woman can acquire herself to a man without
receiving the money.
(b) (Rava): A man told a woman: Take this money and be
Mekudeshes to Ploni - we learn from redemption of a
Kana'ani slave that this works.
1. A Kana'ani slave acquires himself (his freedom),
even though he does not pay - also a man can acquire
a wife without paying.
(c) (Rava): A woman told a man: Give money to Ploni, and I
will be Mekudeshes to him - we learn from the laws of a
guarantor and a slave that this works.
1. A guarantor obligates himself, even though he does
not benefit - also a woman can acquire herself (to
her husband) without receiving money.
2. Question: But this case is different! A guarantor
becomes obligated to one who gave money - but this
woman wants to become Mekudeshes to a man that did
not pay!
3. Answer: We learn from a Kana'ani slave - he acquires
himself without paying (also Ploni can acquire a
wife without paying).
4. Question: That case is different - the master, who
causes the slave to acquire himself, receives money;
here, the woman acquires herself to Ploni without
receiving anything!
5. Answer: We learn from the law of a guarantor that
she can acquire herself without receiving anything.
(d) Question (Rava): A woman told a man: Take this money, and
I will be Mekudeshes to you - what is the law?
(e) Answer (Mar Zutra): She is Mekudeshes.
(f) Question (Rav Ashi): People are considered as mortgagable
property (i.e. land) - how can mortgagable property (the
woman) be acquired along with non-mortgagable property
(the money)?
1. (Mishnah): Non-mortgagable property is acquired
along with mortgagable property when an acquisition
is done on the latter, namely giving money, a
document, or Chazakah.
(g) Answer (Mar Zutra): She is not acquired along with the
money - I speak when she gives the money to a
distinguished person, he gives her pleasure by accepting
her money, this pleasure engages her.
(h) (Rava): These laws also apply to monetary deals.
(i) It is necessary to hear these laws in both cases.
1. If we only heard regarding engagement - we would
think, they only work there, for a woman is happy to
marry any man.
i. (Reish Lakish): A woman prefers to be married
than to remain single.
(j) If we only heard regarding monetary laws - we would
think, they only work there, for a person can pardon
someone's obligation to pay him, but not by engagement.
2) PARTIAL KIDUSHIN
(a) (Rava): A man told a woman: 'You should be Mekudeshes to
half of me' - she is Mekudeshes to him; 'Half of you is
Mekudeshes to me' - she is not Mekudeshes.
(b) Question (Abaye): Presumably, 'Half of you is Mekudeshes
to me' does not work because the Torah says "(A man will
take a) woman", not half a woman;
1. Likewise, 'You should be Mekudeshes to half of me'
should not work - the Torah spoke of a man, not half
a man!
(c) Answer (Rava): A woman cannot be married to 2 men - he
must mean that he only wants to engage half of her;
1. A man can marry 2 women - when he said that she
should be Mekudeshes to half of himself, he merely
warns her that he may marry another woman.
(d) Question (Mar Zutra brei d'Rav Mari): The Kidushin
(engagement) should spread to apply to all of her!
1. (Beraisa): One who says 'The leg of this animal is a
burnt-offering - the entire animal is a
burnt-offering'.
i. One opinion says it is not entirely a
burnt-offering - but even that opinion agrees
that if something it cannot live without was
sanctified, the entire animal is sanctified.
(e) Answer (Ravina): There is different - an animal does not
think, we are only concerned for the intention of the
owner;
1. Here, the woman must agree to the engagement!
(f) R. Yochanan's law is more comparable to engagement.
1. (R. Yochanan): Reuven and Shimon are partners in an
animal. Reuven made his half a sacrifice, then
bought Shimon's share and made it a sacrifice as
well - the animal is Hekdesh, but it cannot be
offered. (Reuven's initial sanctification did not
work entirely, because Shimon's consent was
required).
i. If one makes Temurah on the animal, the Temurah
gets the same status.
2. We learn 3 things from R. Yochanan's law:
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i. Living animals can be permanently rejected from
being offered (even if the reason it cannot be
offered goes away);
ii. Even an animal rejected from the moment it was
sanctified can be permanently rejected;
iii. Even an animal that was sanctified only for its
value (to sell it to buy a sacrifice) can be
permanently rejected.
(g) Question (Rava): A man told a woman: 'Half of you is
Mekudeshes to me with half a Perutah, and half of you
with half a Perutah' - what is the law?
1. Since he said 'Half of you', that shows that he only
engages half of her (and then again tries to engage
half of her - she is not Mekudeshes);
2. Or, perhaps he is just counting how much he is
engaging (and in total, he engages all of her)!
3. Question: If you will say that he is just counting -
what if he says, 'I engage half of you with a
Perutah, and half of you with a Perutah' - what is
the law?
i. Since he gave a Perutah (the amount required
for engagement) for half, this shows that he
only engages half each time;
ii. Or, perhaps the entire day he is counting how
much he is engaging!
4. Question: If you will say that the entire day he is
just counting - what if he says, 'I engage half of
you today with a Perutah, and half of you tomorrow
with a Perutah' - what is the law?
i. Since he said 'tomorrow', this shows that he
engages half each time;
ii. Or, perhaps he just tells her that the
engagement should start today and finish
tomorrow!
iii. This question is unresolved.
3) THE PERUTAH REQUIRED FOR KIDUSHIN
(a) Question (Rava): Reuven told Shimon: I engage your 2
daughters to my 2 sons with 1 Perutah - what is the law?
1. From the standpoint of the giver and receiver,
Reuven gives a Perutah and Shimon receives a Perutah
(so the engagements are valid);
2. Or - do we require that a Perutah is received for
each girl that becomes Mekudeshes (and they are not
Mekudeshes)?
3. This question is unresolved.
(b) Question (Rav Papa): 'I engage your daughter and buy your
cow with a Perutah' - what is the law?
1. Does he give half a Perutah for each (and acquires
neither)?
2. Or - does he engage with a Perutah, and intend to
buy the cow by dragging it?
3. This question is unresolved.
(c) Question (Rav Ashi): 'I engage your daughter and buy your
land with a Perutah' - what is the law?
1. Does he give half a Perutah for each (and acquires
neither)?
2. Or - does he engage with a Perutah, and intend to
buy the land through Chazakah?
3. This question is unresolved.
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