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Kidushin, 10
KIDUSHIN 7-10 - Dedicated by an admirer of the work of the Dafyomi
Advancement Forum, l'Iluy Nishmas Mrs. Gisela (Golda bas Reb Chaim Yitzchak
Ozer) Turkel, A"H.
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10b
1) THE SOURCE FOR THE RIGHT OF A WOMAN BETROTHED TO A KOHEN TO EAT TERUMAH
QUESTION: Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah taught a Kal v'Chomer to prove that an
Arusah Bas Yisrael married to a Kohen should be permitted to eat Terumah.
His Kal v'Chomer asserted that since a Shifchah Kena'anis is not acquired
through Bi'ah and thus cannot eat Terumah with Bi'ah, and yet she can eat
Terumah when she is acquired with Kesef, certainly a Bas Yisrael who can be
acquired through Kidushei Bi'ah should be permitted to eat Terumah. RASHI
(DH Zo) explains that the source that teaches that a Bas Yisrael may eat
Terumah as a result of Kidushei Bi'ah is the verse "Kol Tahor b'Veis'cha
Yochal Oso" (Bamidbar 18:11).
Why does Rashi say that the source for an Arusah's right to eat Terumah is
the verse "Kol Tahor?" The Gemara teaches in a number of places that a Bas
Yisrael who is betrothed to a Kohen may eat Terumah because she is
considered "Kinyan Kaspo" (Vayikra 22:11) (see Kesuvos 57b)!
ANSWER: RASHI is pointing out that our Gemara cannot be learning that
"Kinyan Kaspo" is the source for the right of a Bas Yisrael betrothed to a
Kohen to eat Terumah, because the Gemara (in its Kal v'Chomer) assumes that
it is more obvious that Bi'ah enables her to eat Terumah than does Kesef. If
the source is from "Kinyan Kaspo," then it is just as clear that a Kinyan
with *Kesef* lets her eat Terumah. Therefore, Rashi explains that Rebbi
Yehudah ben Beseirah learns that Bi'ah (which makes Nisu'in) allows an
Arusah to eat Terumah from the verse "Kol Tahor b'Veis'cha" -- teaching that
a woman is considered "in the house" of the husband only after Nisu'in, and
therefore only Bi'ah, which makes Nisu'in, allows her to eat Terumah. Rebbi
Yehudah ben Beseirah learns from a Kal v'Chomer that even Kidushei Kesef
allows her to eat Terumah.
Why, then, does the Gemara in Kesuvos cite a different source, saying that
an Arusah Bas Yisrael may eat the Terumah of her Kohen husband because of
"Kinyan Kaspo?" It would seem that the Gemara in Kesuvos is following the
second version of our Gemara, which maintains that an Arusah may eat Terumah
without the Kal v'Chomer.
TOSFOS in Yevamos (68b) asks why the verse of "Kol Tahor b'Veis'cha" is
necessary according to the Gemara in Kesuvos that learns that the verse of
"Kinyan Kaspo" teaches that an Arusah may eat Terumah. If an Arusah may eat
Terumah, then certainly when she becomes a Nesu'ah she may continue to eat
Terumah!
Tosfos there answers that "Kol Tahor" is only an Asmachta.
Tosfos here (DH u'Mah and DH Zo), however, seems to take a different
approach. Tosfos explains that both verses are necessary. The verse of "Kol
Tahor" reveals that Kidushin of a woman is in the category of "Kinyan
Kaspo." We might have thought that only an Amah or Eved who is fully owned
by her master is considered "Kinyan Kaspo;" this verse teaches that even an
Ishah who is not really owned by her husband is still considered "Kinyan
Kaspo," and thus she may eat Terumah from the time of Erusin.
This might explain another point that the Acharonim raise. We find that if a
Shifchah of a Kohen becomes a Zonah, she may still eat Terumah. In contrast,
if a wife of a Kohen becomes a Zonah, she may not eat Terumah. If both women
eat the Terumah of their husbands who are Kohanim because they are the
"Kinyan Kaspo" of the Kohen, then why should they each have different
Halachos (see KOVETZ HE'OROS #61)?
The answer might be that they are not really eating Terumah through the same
mechanism. The wife eats not because she is owned by the husband, but
because she is part of the home of the husband; that is to say, she is given
the same status as her husband because of "Ishto k'Gufo." Therefore, it is
possible for her to become invalidated from eating Terumah if she becomes a
Zonah, since she is eating Terumah based on her own merit. This is learned
from the fact that the Torah teaches us from "Kol Tahor b'Veis'cha" that the
wife may eat Terumah.
2) DOING "CHUPAH" BEFORE KIDUSHIN
QUESTION: Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah taught a Kal v'Chomer to prove that an
Arusah Bas Yisrael married to a Kohen should be permitted to eat Terumah.
His Kal v'Chomer asserted that since a Shifchah Kena'anis is not acquired
through Bi'ah and thus cannot eat Terumah with Bi'ah, and yet she can eat
Terumah when she is acquired with Kesef, certainly a Bas Yisrael who can be
acquired through Kidushei Bi'ah should be permitted to eat Terumah when
acquired with Kesef.
The Gemara asks which type of Bi'ah and which type of Kesef is Rebbi Yehudah
ben Beseirah discussing? If he is referring to Bi'ah with Chupah, and Kesef
with Chupah, then in both cases she is permitted to eat Terumah! Why does
the Beraisa conclude that the Rabanan decreed that she may not eat Terumah
with Kesef? Once Chupah has been performed, there is no Gezeirah not to eat
Terumah!
RASHI explains that when the Gemara suggests that the Bas Yisrael can eat
Terumah through Bi'ah or Kesef together with Chupah, it means that she can
eat Terumah when "Bi'ah was done after Chupah," and she can eat Terumah when
she is betrothed with Kesef and *afterwards* she enters the Chupah.
Rashi seems to be referring to the Bi'ah and Kesef of Kidushin which permit
a woman to eat Terumah when done together with Chupah, as all of the
Acharonim explain. Why, then, does Rashi write that Bi'ah was done *after*
the Chupah? If Bi'ah creates Kidushin, Rashi should have said that the Bi'ah
was done *before* the Chupah, just like he writes with regard to Kesef. How
could Chupah be done *before* the act of Kidushin?
The RASHASH and other Acharonim answer that Rashi indeed holds that Chupah
can be performed before Kidushin, so that when the Kidushin takes effect,
the wife will not need another Chupah, as the HAGAHOS MORDECHAI (#546)
quotes in Rashi's name.
However, even if this is true, why does Rashi explain Bi'ah and Kesef
differently? He should either explain that both were done before Chupah or
both were done after Chupah! In addition, why should Rashi explain that this
Gemara is discussing a strange type of Chupah that was done before the
Bi'ah? Why should he not explain that it is discussing the normal type of a
Chupah that was done after the Kidushei Bi'ah? (ATZMOS YOSEF, RASHASH, and
others)
ANSWER: It seems that Rashi was bothered by the way in which the Gemara
rejects this manner of explaining Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah's Kal v'Chomer.
The Gemara says that if Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah is referring to Bi'ah
together with Chupah, and to Kesef together with Chupah, then why does the
Beraisa conclude that the Rabanan decreed that a woman should not eat
Terumah with Kidushei Kesef? After Kesef with Chupah, she certainly should
be able to eat Terumah!
Why does the Gemara accept the Kal v'Chomer and raise a problem only with
the conclusion of the Beraisa? The Kal v'Chomer itself should be problematic
if Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah is referring to Kesef together with Chupah!
Why should Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah have to learn that Kesef is Koneh with
Chupah from the fact that Bi'ah is Koneh with Chupah? If Bi'ah is Koneh with
Chupah, then the reason is because we learn from the verse, "Kol Tahor
b'Veis'cha" (Bamidbar 18:11), that she can eat Terumah after marriage (see
previous Insight). We should be able to learn from the same verse that a
woman may eat Terumah when Chupah is performed after Kidushei *Kesef*! (See
IMREI BINYAMIN.)
Rashi, therefore, understands that the Gemara is suggesting that Rebbi
Yehudah ben Beseirah derives Kesef with Chupah from a woman who does Bi'ah
*after* her Chupah. The Gemara means that perhaps the verse "Kol Tahor
b'Veis'cha" is referring not only to a woman who is married, but also to a
woman who entered the Chupah and performed Bi'ah ("Nichnesah l'Chupah
v'Niv'alah"). Accordingly, we can learn from the verse only that a woman
eats Terumah through Bi'ah after Chupah, but not that she can eat with a
regular Chupah that was performed following Kidushin.
Therefore, Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah learns from a Kal v'Chomer that every
Chupah, even without Bi'ah, should allow the woman to eat Terumah.
The Gemara rejects this interpretation of the Beraisa because the Beraisa
should not have concluded that the Rabanan prohibited the woman from eating
Terumah when Kesef is given together with Chupah. The Halachah is that a
married woman certainly can eat Terumah even before Bi'ah.
Once the Gemara rejects this, it reverts to the understanding that the verse
"Kol Tahor b'Veis'cha" is indeed referring to a case of "Nichnesah l'Chupah
v'Lo Niv'alah," when she entered the Chupah but did not yet perform Bi'ah,
and that the Kal v'Chomer is teaching that even Erusin alone should permit
her to eat Terumah.
According to this interpretation, Rashi does not mean to teach that Chupah
can be done before Kidushin, since he is not referring to Bi'ah of Kidushin.
(M. Kornfeld)
3) OVERRIDING LOGIC WITH A "KAL V'CHOMER"
QUESTION: Ravina explains that Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah's Kal v'Chomer was
made in order to teach that the Rabanan did not make an enactment to
prohibit an Arusah from eating Terumah because of the fear of "Simpon."
According to Ravina, the Kal v'Chomer asserts that if a Shifchah Kena'anis
is able to eat Terumah when she is bought with Kinyan Kesef, even though
Bi'ah does not allow her to eat Terumah, then certainly a wife whom the
Rabanan permitted to eat Terumah after Bi'as Nisu'in should be permitted to
eat Terumah after Kesef of Erusin, and the Rabanan should not prohibit her
because of "Simpon."
How can we make a Kal v'Chomer like this to override the consideration of
"Simpon?" The reason a woman eats Terumah after Nisu'in is because there is
no concern for "Simpon," since a man has his wife examined thoroughly for
defects before Nisu'in (Rashi DH Zo). After Erusin, however, the husband has
not finished checking his wife thoroughly and therefore "Simpon" must be
taken into consideration. A Kal v'Chomer cannot prevent the Rabanan from
prohibiting her from eating Terumah when there exists a logical
consideration that there is concern for "Simpon!" (PNEI YEHOSHUA, MAHARIT)
ANSWERS:
(a) The ATZMOS YOSEF explains that according to Ravina, Rebbi Yehudah ben
Beseirah is not actually learning this Halachah from a Kal v'Chomer. Rather,
he is suggesting a simple "Meh Matzinu:" just as the Rabanan did not decree
that a Shifchah may not eat Terumah because of the concern for "Simpon," the
Rabanan should not decree that a wife should not eat Terumah because of the
concern of "Simpon."
In fact, the RAMBAN and RITVA explain throughout the entire Sugya that Rebbi
Yehudah ben Beseirah is relying on a "Meh Matzinu." He cannot be suggesting
a Kal v'Chomer based on the fact that a Shifchah is not acquired through
Bi'ah, since the Kinyan of Bi'ah is not applicable to a Shifchah in the
first place, since her Kinyan is not one of Ishus, matrimony, but is a
monetary Kinyan. It is obvious that Bi'ah can only create a bond of Ishus,
and it cannot be used to acquire a piece of property. Therefore, the fact
that a Shifchah cannot be acquired through Bi'ah does not show that she is
less easily able to eat Terumah than a wife.
(b) The MAHARIT suggests that Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah indeed is
suggesting a Kal v'Chomer, as follows. If the Rabanan took into
consideration the concern for "Simpon," there should be a larger concern for
"Simpon" in the case of a Shifchah than in the case of a wife, an Eshes Ish.
The reason is because the possibility of a "Simpon" occurring will remain
throughout the servitude of the Shifchah, since at any time he may discover
something that makes the Kinyan into a "Mekach Ta'us." In contrast, a
"Simpon" will not be a lasting concern in the case of a wife, since at the
time that they perform Nisu'in the husband certainly ensures that she has no
defects. After Nisu'in, there is no longer any concern for the possibility
of "Simpon."
According to this, Rebbi Yehudah ben Beseirah's Kal v'Chomer is that the
Rabanan did not prevent a Shifchah from eating Terumah, even though "Simpon"
in the case of a Shifchah will be an everlasting concern, because there is
no Bi'ah with a Shifchah which would prompt the owner to examine her.
Accordingly, the Rabanan certainly should not decree that a wife cannot eat
Terumah because of "Simpon," because "Simpon" is less of a concern in the
case of a wife, because eventually (at the time of Nisu'in) we will be
certain that there is no "Simpon." (In addition, since a man marries a woman
in order to have an intimate relationship with her, he certainly makes sure
that there is no "Simpon" from the time that he makes Kidushin.)
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