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Kesuvos 74
11) WHEN ARE RELATIONS INTENDED TO MAKE ENGAGEMENT?
(a) Question: This is as a case of an error by 1 woman, and
Tana'im argue!
(b) Answer: Here also, they argue as follows. The 1st Tana
holds, a man knows that engagement of a minor is not
mi'Dioraisa; when he had relations, he intended that they
should make engagement.
(c) R. Eliezer holds, a man thinks that engagement of a minor
is mi'Dioraisa; when he had relations, he assumed he was
already engaged, and did not intend that relations should
make engagement.
(d) (Rav Acha Bar Yakov): One who makes engagement on
condition and has relations, all agree that a Get is not
required.
(e) Question (Rav Acha Brei d'Rav Ika - Beraisa): A mistaken
Chalitzah is valid.
1. Question: What is a mistaken Chalitzah?
2. Answer #1 (Reish Lakish): They tell the Yavam, do
Chalitzah, and you will be permitted to do Yibum.
i. Objection (R. Yochanan - Beraisa): Whether he
intended for Chalitzah but she didn't, or she
intended but he didn't, the Chalitzah is
invalid, unless both have intention.
3. Answer #2 (R. Yochanan): They tell the Yavam, do
Chalitzah on condition that she will give you 200
Zuz.
(f) Summation of question: We see, since he does the act of
Chalitzah, he pardons the condition - here also, since he
has relations, he pardons his condition!
(g) Answer (Rav Acha Bar Yakov): Do you think this is a good
question?!
1. All conditions are learned from the tribes of Gad and
Reuven (that were given Ever ha'Yarden on condition
that they help conquer Eretz Yisrael).
2. If the action (subject to condition) can be
fulfilled by a messenger, the condition is binding;
if not, the condition is void.
(h) Question: But relations cannot be performed by a
messenger, and one can put a condition on engagement
through relations!
(i) Answer: That is because a verse teaches that all acts of
engagement have the same law.
12) WHEN DO RELATIONS NECESSITATE A GET?
(a) (Ula): One that makes engagement with a loan and had
relations, or engaged on condition and had relations, or
engaged with less than a Prutah and had relations - all
agree, she needs a Get.
(b) (Rav Yosef Bar Aba): One that makes engagement with less
than a Prutah and had relations - all agree, she needs a
Get.
1. In this case, a person does not err (and intends for
engagement, since he knows that the 1st engagement
was invalid), but in the other cases of Ula, a
person errs, and a Get is not needed.
(c) (Rav Kahana): A man that engages on condition, and has
relations - she needs a Get;
1. There was a case, and Chachamim could not permit her
without a Get.
(d) This is unlike the following Tana.
1. (R. Yishmael): "She (an adulterer) was not grabbed"
- she is forbidden; there is another case, even
though she was not grabbed, she is permitted - this
is one whose engagement was erroneous, even though
she has a son on her shoulder, she may leave her
husband without a Get.
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13) IF THE VOW WAS UNDONE
(a) (Beraisa): (A woman was engaged on condition that she has
no vows or blemishes. If she had a vow, and) went to a
Chacham and he permitted her vow, she is engaged; (If she
had a blemish and) went to a doctor and he removed the
blemish, she is not engaged.
(b) Question: What is the difference?
(c) Answer: A Chacham uproots the vow retroactively; a
doctor's cure is not retroactive.
(d) Contradiction (Beraisa): If she went to a Chacham and he
permitted her vow, or to a doctor and he removed the
blemish, she is not engaged.
(e) Answer #1 (Rabah): The 1st Beraisa is as R. Meir, the
latter, as R. Elazar.
1. R. Meir says, a man does not mind if his wife is
shamed by having to go to Beis Din; R. Elazar says,
a man does not want his wife to be shamed by going
to Beis Din.
2. Question: How do we know that they say this?
3. Answer (Mishnah): A man that divorces his wife
because of a vow she made, or because of her bad
reputation, may not remarry her;
4. R. Yehudah says, if many knew about the vow, he may
not remarry her; if not, he may remarry her;
5. R. Meir says, if the vow can only be annulled by a
Chacham (i.e. the husband cannot annul it), he may
not remarry her; if the husband can annul it, he may
remarry her;
6. R. Elazar says, we only prohibited him from
remarrying her in the case when a Chacham is needed
on account of the case when a Chacham is not needed.
7. Question: What is the reason of R. Yehudah (that a
vow made in public cannot be annulled)?
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