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Horayos 2
HORAYOS 2 (27 Iyar) - Dedicated by Gitle Bekelnitzky in honor of the fifth
Yahrzeit of her father, Zev ben Ephraim v'Chaya Krause
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1) THE "HORA'AH" OF BEIS DIN
(a) (Mishnah): If the Great Sanhedrin (which is simply called
Beis Din in this Masechta) (mistakenly) gave a Hora'ah (a
ruling) to transgress a Mitzvah (punishable by Kares):
1. If an individual relied on Beis Din and transgressed
(b'Shogeg), whether he transgressed with them, or
after them, or even if Beis Din themselves did not
transgress, he is exempt, because he relied on Beis
Din.
2. If a member of the Beis Din or a Chacham qualified
to give Hora'ah knew that Beis Din erred, and
transgressed - whether he transgressed with them,
after them, or without them, he is liable (brings a
Korban), because he did not rely on Beis Din.
3. The general rule is - one who relies on himself is
liable, one who relies on Beis Din is exempt.
(b) Version #1 (Gemara - Shmuel): Beis Din brings Par He'elam
Davar (a bull to atone for a mistaken Hora'ah which
caused the majority of Yisrael to transgress) only if
Beis Din said 'You are permitted';
(c) (Note: Tana'im argue (4B-5A) whether Parim are (also or
only) brought by the Shevatim (tribes) - in general, we
will refer to Beis Din bringing a Par, without concern
for the different opinions.)
(d) (Rav Dimi of Nehardai): Beis Din is liable only if they
said 'You are permitted to act';
1. If they did not say this, the Hora'ah was not final.
(e) Support #1 (for Rav Dimi - Abaye - Mishnah): If a Zaken
Mamrei (a Chacham who ruled unlike the Sanhedrin)
returned to his city, learned and taught as before - he
is exempt;
1. If he ruled *to act*, he is killed.
(f) Support #2 (R. Aba - Mishnah): (One witness testified
that Leah's husband died; Beis Din told her that she may
remarry.) If Leah was Mezanah (had relations without
marriage), and her husband returned, she brings a Korban,
for Beis Din only allowed her to remarry. (Rashi - they
did not say 'You are permitted', therefore it is not
considered Hora'ah. Ramah (in Tosfos ha'Rosh) - even
though permission to remarry shows that she is (according
to Beis Din) single and exempt for Zenus, nevertheless
she is liable - this shows that Hora'ah is limited to the
action Beis Din permitted.)
(g) Support #3 (Ravina - Mishnah): If Beis Din gave a Hora'ah
*to transgress*...
1. One cannot refute this support.
(h) Version #2 (Shmuel): Beis Din is liable only if they said
'You are permitted to act';
(i) (Rav Dimi of Nehardai): Even 'You are permitted' is a
final Hora'ah.
(j) Question #1 (against Rav Dimi - Abaye - Mishnah): If the
Chacham returned to his city, learned and taught as
before - he is exempt;
1. If he ruled *to act* - he is killed.
(k) Question #2 (R. Aba - Mishnah): If Beis Din permitted
Leah to remarry; she was Mezanah, and her husband
returned, she brings a Korban, for Beis Din only
permitted her to remarry.
(l) Question #3 (Ravina - Mishnah): If Beis Din gave a
Hora'ah *to transgress*...
1. One cannot answer this question.
2) RELYING ON BEIS DIN
(a) (Mishnah): If an individual transgressed b'Shogeg
according to Beis Din...
(b) Question: The Mishnah should say 'If an individual
transgressed according to Beis Din' - why must it say
'b'Shogeg'?
(c) Version #1 - Answer #1 (Rava): 'B'Shogeg' - this is when
Beis Din permitted Chelev (forbidden fats), and an
individual (wanted to eat other meat and) mistakenly ate
Chelev;
1. 'According to Beis Din' - this is simply relying on
Beis Din (he knowingly ate Chelev).
(d) Version #2 - Answer #1 (Rava): He is exempt only if his
mistake was relying on Beis Din (he knowingly ate
Chelev);
1. If he mistakenly ate Chelev, he is liable.
(e) Rami bar Chama was unsure of this law.
1. Question (Rami bar Chama): If Beis Din permitted
Chelev, and an individual mistakenly ate Chelev -
what is the law?
2. Version #1 - Answer (Rava): We learn from extra
words in the Mishnah - it says, 'If an individual
transgressed *b'Shogeg, according to Beis Din*';
i. This includes this case (he is exempt).
3. Rejection: Perhaps this teaches that he is exempt
only when his mistake was relying on Beis Din (he
knowingly ate Chelev), but if he mistakenly ate
Chelev, he is liable!
4. Version #2 - Answer (Rava): We learn from extra
words in the Mishnah - it says, 'If an individual
transgressed *b'Shogeg, according to Beis Din*';
i. This teaches that he is exempt only when his
mistake was relying on Beis Din (he knowingly
ate Chelev), but if he mistakenly ate Chelev,
he is liable! (End of Version #2)
5. Rejection: Perhaps it teaches that he is exempt in
either case, whether he mistakenly ate or relied on
Beis Din.
(f) Other Amora'im argued according to the two versions of
Rava.
1. (Rav): If Beis Din permitted Chelev, and Reuven
mistakenly ate Chelev, he is exempt;
2. (R. Yochanan): He is liable.
(g) Question (against R. Yochanan - Beraisa): "*From* the
common people" - this excludes a Mumar;
1. R. Shimon ben Yosi says, "(If the Nasi...
transgresses one of the Mitzvos...) that one may not
do, b'Shogeg, and is guilty. Or if he finds out" -
one who would not have sinned knowingly brings a
Korban, one who would have sinned knowingly does not
bring a Korban;
2. No other verse is needed to exclude a Mumar! (This
refutes R. Yochanan - since Beis Din permitted it,
Reuven would have eaten it even had he known that it
is Chelev!)
(h) Answer (Rav Papa): Since Beis Din would have retracted
had they realized their mistake (and then Reuven would
not have eaten knowingly), this is considered that he
would not have eaten it knowingly.
(i) (Rava): Rav admits that Reuven is not counted towards a
majority (of Yisrael) that transgressed according to Beis
Din.
(j) Question: Why is this?
(k) Answer: "Bi'Shgagah" - (the full majority) must all
commit the same mistake (relying on Beis Din).
(l) (Mishnah): Whether he transgressed with Beis Din...
(m) Question: Why must the Mishnah teach three cases
(transgressing with Beis Din, after Beis Din, and without
Beis Din)?
1. We understand in the beginning of the Mishnah (when
he is exempt) - each case is a bigger Chidush than
the previous case.
2. But in the end of the Mishnah, when he is liable,
each case is a smaller Chidush than the previous
case, they should have been taught in the reverse
order!
2b---------------------------------------2b
(n) Answer: Indeed, the Mishnah teaches the biggest Chidush,
and then the smaller Chidushim!
3) A "CHACHAM" THAT RELIED ON BEIS DIN
(a) (Mishnah): If a member of the Beis Din or a Chacham
qualified to give Hora'ah...
(b) Question: Why must it teach both of these?
(c) Answer (Rava): One might have thought that he is liable
(if he knew that Beis Din erred, and he transgressed)
only if he learned the law *and* can delve deeper through
reasoning, but one of these is not enough - the Mishnah
teaches, this is not so.
(d) Question (Abaye): A Chacham qualified to give Hora'ah
must have both qualifications!
(e) Answer (Rava): True! The Mishnah taught an extra case to
teach that he is liable if he has even one of these
qualifications.
(f) (Mishnah): If he is qualified to give Hora'ah...
(g) Question: What is an example of someone qualified to give
Hora'ah?
(h) Answer (Rava): Shimon ben Azai and Shimon ben Zoma are
qualified.
(i) Question (Abaye): Surely, either of them would know the
law, if he transgressed he would be Mezid, he would not
bring a Korban!
1. Counter-question (Rava - Beraisa): "Ba'Asosah Achas
(in transgressing one Mitzvah)" - an individual who
relies on himself is liable, one who relies on Beis
Din is exempt;
i. For example, if Beis Din permitted Chelev, and
one of them, or a Talmid that sits in front of
them and is qualified to give Hora'ah, such as
Ben Azai or Ben Zoma, knew that this is a
mistake:
ii. One might have thought that he is exempt if he
follows the Hora'ah of Beis Din - "Ba'Asosah
Achas" teaches, this is not so.
2. Version #1 (Rashi) Answer (Abaye): (Surely, Ben Azai
knows the law -) we must say, he mistakenly thought
that it is a Mitzvah to follow the Hora'ah of the
Beis Din, even if it is wrong.
(j) Answer (Rava): Likewise, I say that the Mishnah discusses
a Chacham like Ben Azai, he brings a Korban if he
mistakenly thought that it is a Mitzvah to follow a
mistaken Hora'ah of Beis Din!
(k) Version #2 (Tosfos) Answer (to both questions - Rava):
Surely, Ben Azai knows the law - we must say, he
mistakenly thought that it is a Mitzvah to follow a
mistaken Hora'ah of Beis Din! (End of Version #2)
(l) (Mishnah): The general rule is - one who relies on
himself (is liable)...
(m) Question: What does this come to include?
(n) Answer: It includes one who (normally) rejects the
Hora'ah of Beis Din.
(o) Question (Mishnah): 'One who relies on Beis Din is
exempt' - what does this come to include?
(p) Answer: It includes if Beis Din gave a Hora'ah and later
retracted (and Reuven did not hear the retraction and
acted according to the Hora'ah).
(q) Objection: The continuation of our Mishnah (3B)
explicitly teaches that!
(r) Answer: Yes, it explains what was hinted at in our
Mishnah.
4) LIKE WHOM IS THE MISHNAH?
(a) (Rav Yehudah citing Shmuel): Our Mishnah is like R.
Yehudah, but Chachamim obligate an individual who relies
on Beis Din.
(b) Question: What is the source that R. Yehudah exempts?
(c) Answer (Beraisa): "If *one soul* will sin b'Shogeg *in
doing*" - these are 3 exclusions (exemptions from
bringing a Korban - one who did half the sin, one who had
a partner in the act, and) one who relied on Beis Din.
(We will explain later how we know that this is like R.
Yehudah.)
(d) Question: What is the source that Chachamim obligate?
(e) Answer (Beraisa) Suggestion: One might have thought that
if the minority of Yisrael sinned, they are liable, for
Beis Din does not bring Par He'elam Davar for them, but
if the majority sinned, they are exempt, for Beis Din
brings a Par for them;
1. Rejection: "From the common people" - even the
majority, even all of them (are liable).
2. Question: What is the case?
i. Suggestion: If they transgressed b'Shogeg (not
on account of a Hora'ah), Beis Din does not
bring a Par!
3. Answer #1: Rather, they relied on a Hora'ah of Beis
Din.
4. Rejection: "From the common people" is written
regarding transgressing b'Shogeg!
5. Answer #2: Rather, the Beraisa means, if the
minority of Yisrael sinned b'Shogeg, they bring
Chata'os (sin-offerings), for Beis Din (when they
give a mistaken Hora'ah) do not bring a Par for
them;
i. If the majority sinned b'Shogeg, one might have
thought that they are exempt, for Beis Din
(when they give a mistaken Hora'ah) brings a
Par for them - "From the common people"
teaches, even if the majority or all of Yisrael
sin, they bring Chata'os.
(f) Question (Rav Papa): We need not explain that way - we
can say, when the minority sinned because of a mistaken
Hora'ah of Beis Din, *neither* they nor Beis Din bring a
Korban!
(g) Rejection: If so, why does the Tana use the verse to
teach that the *majority* brings when they sin - he
should first prove that the minority brings!
1. Rather, when the minority sin on account of a
Hora'ah, each brings a Kisvah or Se'irah (female
lamb or goat), we already know that they bring the
same for transgressing b'Shogeg;
2. Therefore, the verse teaches about the majority.
(h) Question: Both Beraisos are anonymous - how did Shmuel
know that the first is like R. Yehudah, and the second is
like Chachamim - perhaps they are just the opposite!
(i) Answer #1: R. Yehudah often expounds multiple exclusions
from one verse.
1. (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): "*This* is the law of *the*
Olah (burnt offering), *it is*" - these are three
exclusions.
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