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Gitin 82
GITIN 82 - Dedicated by Seth and Sheila Jutan of Atlanta, Georgia, in memory
of Sheila's grandfather, Mr. Bernie Slotin (Dov Ber ben Moshe Mordechai
z'l), who passed away on Chol ha'Moed Pesach (18 Nisan 5759 - April 4,
1999).
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***** PEREK HA'MEGARESH *****
1) PARTIAL DIVORCE
(a) (Mishnah - R. Eliezer): A man divorced his wife, saying
'You are permitted to any man but not Peloni' - she is
permitted to all other men;
(b) Chachamim say, she is (not divorced and) forbidden to all
men.
1. He must take the Get and give it again, saying, 'You
are permitted to all men.'
2. If he wrote in the Get (that she is not permitted to
Peloni), even if this was later erased, the Get is
invalid.
(c) (Gemara) Question: How did he say that she is not
permitted to Peloni - 'You are permitted to any man
except Peloni', or 'You are permitted to any man on
condition that you do not marry Peloni'?
1. If he said except - in that case, Chachamim argue on
R. Eliezer, because the Get does not fully divorce
her;
i. But had he said on condition, all would agree
that this as any conditional Get, it is valid.
2. If he said on condition - in that case, R. Eliezer
argues;
i. But had he said except, all would agree that
the Get is invalid, because the Get does not
fully divorce her.
(d) Answer #1 (Ravina - Mishnah): All houses can become
plagued, but not those of non-Jews.
1. We understand if this means 'except'.
2. Question: If it means 'on condition that' - can we
say that houses of Yisrael can become plagued on
condition that that non-Jewish houses cannot?!
i. Objection #1: This would imply - if non-Jewish
houses can become Tamei, houses of Yisrael
could not!
ii. Objection #2: Non-Jewish houses cannot
become Tamei - "A plague in a house of your
inheritance!"
(e) Our Mishnah is not as the following Tana.
1. (Beraisa - R. Yosi b'Rebbi Yehudah): R. Eliezer and
Chachamim agree, if he said 'You are permitted to
all men except Peloni', she is not divorced;
2. They only argued when he said 'You are permitted to
all men on condition that you do not marry Peloni'.
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3. R. Eliezer says, she may marry any man except
Peloni; Chachamim forbid her to marry.
i. R. Eliezer holds, this is as any other
stipulation;
ii. Chachamim hold, this stipulation is different,
for it creates a remnant of marriage that the
Get does not sever.
(f) Question: In the Mishnah, R. Eliezer says that the Get is
valid when he says 'except' - why is this?
(g) Answer #1 (R. Yanai): "She will leave his house and marry
another man" - even if she only becomes permitted to 1
man, this is considered divorce.
1. Chachamim say, the verse teaches that she must
become permitted to every man.
(h) Answer #2 (R. Yochanan): "Kohanim will not marry a woman
divorced from her husband" - even if she is only divorced
from her husband (and not permitted to anyone), she is
(divorced and) forbidden to a Kohen.
1. Chachamim say, that is a stringency of Kehunah, she
is not really divorced.
2) ENGAGEMENT WITH AN EXCLUSION
(a) Question (R. Aba): What is the law if Reuven engages a
woman except for Peloni (i.e. regarding Peloni, she is
single)?
1. This question may be asked according to R. Eliezer
and Chachamim.
2. R. Eliezer learned from a verse that the
corresponding case by divorce is valid - here there
is no verse to learn from, he must fully engage her;
i. Or, perhaps "v'Yatzah v'Haysah" teaches that
divorce and engagement have the same law.
3. Chachamim only said that such a divorce is invalid
because the Torah specified a Sefer of Krisus
(cutting) - by engagement, even a partial
acquisition works;
i. Or, perhaps "v'Yatzah v'Haysah" teaches that
divorce and engagement have the same law.
(b) Answer (R. Aba): All learn from "v'Yatzah v'Haysah", they
have the same argument by engagement.
(c) (Abaye): If R. Aba is correct (and R. Eliezer holds that
partial engagement works) - if Reuven engaged Leah except
for his brother Shimon, and Shimon engaged her except for
Reuven, and both died, Levi may do Yibum;
1. Leah is not considered the wife of 2 dead brothers
(if she was, Yibum would be forbidden).
2. The reason is because Shimon's engagement had no
effect (she was already forbidden to all other men,
and he did not forbid her to Reuven).
3. Had Shimon engaged her normally, then also his
engagement takes effect (to forbid her to Reuven);
if they died, she would be the wife of 2 dead
brothers.
3) RETRACTION
(a) Question #1 (Abaye): A man told his wife: 'You are
permitted to all men except Reuven and Shimon'; he then
said, 'To Reuven and Shimon' - what is the law?
1. Do we say, he permitted (her to marry even) the ones
he initially forbade her to?
2. Or, did he retract to say that she should only be
permitted to Reuven and Shimon?
3. Question #2: If you will say that he permitted
(even) the ones he initially forbade - what if he
only retracted to say 'to Reuven'?
i. Does he permit her to Reuven - and also to
Shimon (for conciseness, he only said the first
one)?
ii. Or, perhaps he only permits her to Reuven, not
to Shimon?
4. Question #3: If he only permits her to Reuven - what
if he only retracted to say 'to Shimon'?
i. Does he permit her to Shimon - and also to
Reuven (for conciseness, he only said the last
one he mentioned)?
ii. Or, perhaps he only permits her to Shimon, not
to Reuven?
(b) Question (Rav Ashi): What if he said 'Even to Shimon'?
1. Does he mean, not only to Reuven, rather, even to
Shimon?
2. Or - does he mean, not only to all other men (that
he permitted her to the first time), rather, even to
Shimon?
i. These questions are unresolved.
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