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Gitin 80
GITIN 80 (5 Iyar 5761) - Dedicated by Marsha and Lee Weinblatt of Teaneck,
New Jersey. May they see much Nachas from their daughter Jodi, who just
became a Kalah, and the rest of their extended family, and may we soon merit
to see the return of Hashem to Zion!
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1) IMPROPER GITIN
(a) (Mishnah): If a woman remarried relying on a Get with one
of the problems listed below, she suffers the following
penalties:
1. She may not remain married to her original nor her
new husband;
2. She may not marry anyone else until she gets a
proper Get from both husbands;
3. She does not receive from either husband: a Kesuvah,
nor fruits (of her property), nor food, nor the
remnants of property she brought into the marriage;
i. If she received, she must return it;
4. Children from either husband (after she remarried)
are Mamzerim;
5. If she dies, neither husband may become Tamei (if he
is a Kohen) to engage in her burial;
6. Neither husband receives objects she finds or her
productivity, neither can annul her vows;
7. If she was a Bas Yisrael - she becomes disqualified
to ever marry a Kohen;
8. If she was a Bas Levi - she becomes disqualified
from eating Ma'aser;
9. If she was a Bas Kohen - she becomes disqualified
from eating Terumah;
10. Her children from either husband do not inherit her
Kesuvah;
11. If either husband died before giving her a Get - she
does Chalitzah with a brother, not Yibum.
(b) The problematic Gitin:
1. The date is not according to the reign of the king
of the land, rather according to the king of an
improper kingdom, or of the Medes, or of the
Yevanim;
2. It was dated by the years since the building of the
Beis ha'Mikdash or its destruction;
3. He was in the east, but the Get says 'In the west';
4. The name of the husband or wife, or the name of his
or her city was changed;
(c) Reuven died without children. One of his wives (Leah) was
a close relative of the Yavam, by which the law is that
she and all co-wives are exempt from Yibum and Chalitzah.
A co-wife remarried, and it was then learned that Leah is
an Ailonis (so she was never really married, and the
co-wife was forbidden to remarry without Chalitzah) - all
of the above fines apply. (Whatever applied to the first
husband (i.e. she may not be married to him) applies to
the Yavam).
(d) Shimon died without children; a brother did Yibum on one
of the widows (Rachel). (This exempts the other co-wives
from Yibum and Chalitzah.) A co-wife remarried, and it
was then learned that Rachel is an Ailonis (so the Yibum
was invalid, and the co-wife was forbidden to remarry
without Chalitzah) - all of the above fines apply.
(e) A scribe wrote a Get for a man and a receipt (saying that
the Kesuvah has been paid) for his wife. The man divorced
his wife and took the receipt; she remarried. Later, he
finds that he has the Get, and she has the receipt - we
realize that the scribe gave the wrong document to each
party, so she was never divorced! All the above fines
apply;
1. R. Eliezer says, this is only if the mistake is
realized immediately; if not, the man is not
believed to forbid her to her second husband.
(f) (Gemara) 'An unfitting kingdom' refers to Rome;
1. It is called 'unfitting' because it does not have
its own alphabet or language.
2) R. MEIR'S POSITION ON GITIN
(a) (Ula): It was enacted to date a Get according to the
kingdom for the sake of Shalom with the king.
(b) Question: If that is the reason, if this was not done,
would she have to leave her new husband, and would the
children be Mamzerim?!
(c) Answer: Yes, according to R. Meir!
1. (Rav Hamnuna): R. Meir holds, any deviation from the
enactments of Chachamim in Gitin invalidates the
Get, and the children (from the new husband) are
Mamzerim.
(d) (Mishnah): According to the kingdom of Yavan.
(e) It was necessary to teach the different cases.
1. If only Rome was taught - one might have thought,
other kings resent a Get dated according to Rome
because the Romans currently rule;
i. This would not apply to Yavan or the Medes.
2. If Yavan was taught, one might have thought, other
kings resent such a Get because Yavan once ruled;
i. This would not apply to the building of the
Beis ha'Mikdash.
3. If the building of the Beis ha'Mikdash was taught,
one might have thought, other kings resent this
because we mention our praise;
i. This would not apply to the destruction of the
Beis ha'Mikdash, for this is our sorrow;
4. We hear, this is not so, the Get is invalid in all
these cases.
(f) (Mishnah): He was in the east, but the Get says 'In the
west'.
(g) Question: Who was in the east?
1. Suggestion: If the husband - this is the next
clause, 'The name of the husband or wife, or the
name of his or her city was changed'!
(h) Answer: Rather, the scribe was in the east.
1. Rav Huna would tell scribes to write the location
they are in, not where they were commanded to write
the Get.
(i) (Rav Yehudah): Our Mishnah is as R. Meir; Chachamim say,
even if the Get was dated according to a minor city
official, she is divorced.
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(j) Question (Rav Nachman bar Rav Chisda): A Get was dated
according to a servant of the king in Buscar - what is
the law?
(k) Answer (Rabah): Even R. Meir admits, in such a case she
is divorced, since the servant is part of the same
kingdom.
(l) Question: Why is this different than according to a minor
city official?
(m) Answer: There, it is a disgrace; here, it honors the
kingdom.
(n) (R. Aba): Our Mishnah is as R. Meir, but Chachamim say
that the children are not Mamzerim;
1. Chachamim admit to R. Meir that if the name of the
husband or wife, or the name of his or her city was
changed, the children are Mamzerim.
2. Support (Rav Ashi - Mishnah): If the name of the
husband or wife, or the name of his or her city was
changed, all the fines apply.
3. Question: Who taught this clause?
i. Suggestion: If R. Meir - this case should be
taught together with the previous case (since
the law is the same)!
4. Answer: Rather, Chachamim taught it.
3) THE OTHER FINES
(a) (Mishnah): If Reuven died without children...
(b) [Version #1 - Inference: The fines apply when the co-wife
remarried - but had she had extramarital relations, she
is not fined.
1. Suggestion: This refutes Rav Hamnuna.
i. (Rav Hamnuna): If a Shomeres Yavam had
relations with a stranger, she is forbidden to
the Yavam.
(c) Rejection: No, the fines apply whether she married or had
extramarital relations.
1. It is nicer to speak of marriage, so the Tana taught
this case.]
(d) [Version #2: The Mishnah speaks when the co-wife
remarried; the same applies if she had extramarital
relations.
1. Suggestion: This supports Rav Hamnuna.
i. (Rav Hamnuna): If a Shomeres Yavam had
relations with a stranger, she is forbidden to
the Yavam.
(e) Rejection: No, the fines only apply when she got married
because only then she can be confused with a woman who
remarried after hearing (false testimony) that her
husband died overseas.]
(f) (Mishnah): A brother did Yibum...
(g) It is necessary to teach this case and the previous case.
1. If we only taught the first case, one might have
thought that only there she is fined, since Yibum
was never done; but here, Yibum was done, she is not
fined.
2. If we only taught this case, one might have thought
that only here she is fined, because she knew that
she fell to Yibum; but there, she thought that she
was exempt from the moment her husband died, she is
not fined.
(h) (Mishnah): If the scribe erred...R. Eliezer says, if the
mistake is realized immediately...
(i) Question: What is considered immediately?
(j) Answer #1 (Rav Yehudah): The whole time they are involved
in the divorce is called immediately; after they divert
to another matter is considered 'later'.
(k) Answer #2 (Rav Ada bar Ahavah): If she did not yet
remarry, that is immediately; after remarriage is
considered 'later'.
(l) (Mishnah): He is not able to forbid her to her second
husband.
1. This fits according to Rav Ada bar Ahavah - only if
she remarried, he is not believed.
2. Question: According to Shmuel - her husband is not
believed even if she did not remarry!
3. Answer: The Mishnah means, he cannot uproot her
privilege to marry a second husband.
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