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Gitin 72
GITIN 72 (27 Nisan) - has been dedicated to the memory of ha'Rav Shmuel (ben
Aharon) Grunfeld of Jerusalem/Efrat. Rav Shmuel was a truly great Torah
scholar, whose tragic death left all who knew him with an inconsolable sense
of loss.
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1) A GET ON CONDITION OF DYING
(a) (Mishnah): As Reuven gave his wife a Get, he said 'This
Get will be valid if I die', or 'This is your Get from
(after) this sickness', or 'This is your Get after my
death' - the Get is void;
(b) If he said 'This is your Get from today if I die', or
'This is your Get from now if I die' - the Get is valid.
(c) 'This is your Get from now and after my death' - she gets
the stringencies of being divorced and still married - if
she falls to Yibum, she does Chalitzah, not Yibum.
(d) 'This is your Get from today if I die from this
sickness'; he got well enough to walk in the market, then
fell sick and died - we evaluate:
1. If he died from the initial illness, the Get is
valid; if not, not.
(e) (Gemara) Inference: When he says 'If I die', it is
invalid - it must be, this is as saying 'After I die';
(f) Question: But the Mishnah continues 'This is your Get
from now if I die' - the Get is valid - we see, 'if I
die' is not as saying 'After I die'!
(g) Answer (Abaye): 'If I die' has 2 connotations - from now,
or after he dies.
1. If he prefaces it by saying 'From today', it means
from now; if not, it means after he dies.
2) IS THE LAW AS OUR MISHNAH?
(a) [Version #1 (Mishnah): 'This Get will be valid if I die'
- the Get does nothing.
(b) (Rav Huna): If he died without children, the widow does
Chalitzah.
(c) Question: But the Mishnah says, the Get does nothing!
(d) Answer #1: It does nothing to permit her to marry a
stranger, but she is also forbidden to the Yavam.
(e) Objection: Since the end of the Mishnah says that she
does Chalitzah, we infer that in the beginning of the
Mishnah, she may do Yibum!
(f) Answer #2: The Mishnah is as Chachamim; Rav Huna's law is
as R. Yosi, who says that the date on a document proves
when it takes effect (in our case, from when it was
given).
(g) Question: According to R. Yosi, Chalitzah should not be
needed - she was divorced immediately, before he died!
1. Suggestion: Rav Huna is unsure if the law is as R.
Yosi or not.
2. Rejection: But the following episode shows that he
was sure!
i. Rav Huna asked Rav Nachman to ask Rabah bar
Avuha whether the law is as R. Yosi or not.
ii. Rabah bar Avuha (citing Rav): The law is as R.
Yosi.
iii. Question (Rav Nachman): What is R. Yosi's
reasoning?
iv. Answer (Rav Huna): The date on a document
proves when it takes effect.
(h) Answer #1: Rather, Rav Huna is unsure whether R. Yosi
said this even if the condition was not written in the
document, but was stated verbally.
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(i) Objection: But Rav Huna had no doubt about this!
1. (Mishnah): 'This Get should take effect if I do not
return within 12 months', and he died within 12
months - the Get is invalid;
i. (Beraisa): Chachamim permitted her to get
married (without Chalitzah).
ii. (Rav Yehudah): These Chachamim are the Beis Din
that permitted the oil of Nochrim; they hold as
R. Yosi, who says that the date on a document
proves when it takes effect.
(j) Answer #2: Rather, Rav Huna is unsure whether R. Yosi
said his law regarding a verbal condition.
(k) Question: Is this really so?!
1. (Rava): 'This is your Get if I die', or 'For I will
die' - the Get is valid;
i. 'When I will die' or 'After my death' - it is
invalid.
2. Question: What is the case?
i. Suggestion: If he said 'From today', and it is
as Chachamim - we know this from the Mishnah,
'From today if I die', the Get is valid.
3. Answer: Rather, he didn't say 'From today', and it
is as R. Yosi - this shows, the law is as R. Yosi
even by verbal conditions!
(l) Answer #1: Rava was sure, but Rav Huna was unsure.
(m) Answer #2: Really, Rava spoke according to Chachamim,
when he said 'From today'; he came to teach 2 languages
which are not taught in the Mishnah:
1. 'For I will die' - this is as 'If I die';
2. 'When I will die' - this is as 'After I die'.]
(n) [Version #2 (Mishnah): 'This is your Get after my death'
- the Get does nothing.
(o) (Rav Huna): According to R. Yosi, if he died without
children, the widow does Chalitzah.
(p) Question: This is obvious!
1. Chachamim say in the end of our Mishnah, 'From today
and after I die', she does Chalitzah - since R. Yosi
holds that the date on a document proves when it
takes effect, saying 'After my death' is as saying
'From today and after my death', so she will also
require Chalitzah!
(q) Answer: One might have thought, R. Yosi holds as Rebbi,
who says that the Get is valid and Chalitzah is not
needed;
1. Rav Huna teaches, this is not so - Rebbi does not
hold as R. Yosi, nor does R. Yosi hold as Rebbi.
2. Question: To what teaching of Rebbi do we refer?
3. Answer (Beraisa): 'This is your Get from today and
after I die' - she gets the stringencies of being
divorced and still married - if she falls to Yibum,
she does Chalitzah, not Yibum;
i. Rebbi says, such a Get is valid.
4. Question: To which teaching of R. Yosi do we refer?
5. Answer (Mishnah): 'Write and give a Get to my wife
if I do not return within 12 months' - if they wrote
the Get within 12 months and gave it after 12
months, the gate is invalid;
i. R. Yosi says, it is valid.
3) THE GET OF A DYING MAN
(a) (Mishnah): 'This is your Get from today if I die from
this sickness'; he got well enough to walk in the
market...
(b) (Rav Huna): The Get of a dying man is as a gift he gives
- just as he may retract a gift, he may retract his Get.
1. Also - just as if he said to write a Get, we give
it, even though he didn't say 'give' - also a gift,
if suffices that he said 'write', even though
witnesses didn't acquire on behalf of the recipient.
(c) (Mishnah): 'This is your Get from today if I die from
this sickness'; he got well enough to walk in the market,
then fell sick and died - we evaluate:
1. If he died from the initial illness, the Get is
valid; if not, not.
2. Question: If he can retract - why must we evaluate
the cause of death?
i. Since Rav Huna says, if he gets better, he
(may) retract - behold, he got better!
3. Answer: (Mar brei d'Rav Yosef): The case is, he
contracted a new sickness just as he was cured of
the first sickness.
4. Question: But the Mishnah says, he got up!
5. Answer: He got up from 1 sickness and caught another
sickness.
6. Question: But the Mishnah says, he walked in the
market!
7. Answer: He walked with help of a staff.
8. The Mishnah teaches that only if he walked on his
staff must we estimate - if not, we assume he died
from the first illness.
(d) Question: May we infer, a dying man that went from 1
illness to another (and died) - if he gave a gift, it is
valid?
(e) Answer: Yes.
1. (R. Elazar): A dying man that went from 1 illness to
another (and died) - if he gave a gift, it is valid.
(f) (Rabah and Rava): A dying man that gave a Get may not
retract if he recovers - this is a decree, lest people
think that a Get can work after the husband dies.
(g) Question: Can it be, (if he retracts, mid'Oraisa the
retraction is valid so) the Get is invalid, and by
Rabbinical decree, she is considered divorced?!
(h) Answer: Yes - everyone that engages a woman wants that
the engagement should be as Chachamim say; Chachamim
allow such a Get to work by saying that the engagement
was void retroactively.
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