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Gitin 13

GITIN 13 - sponsored by Harav Ari Bergmann of Lawrence, N.Y., out of love for Torah and those who study it.

1) IS FREEDOM GOOD FOR A SLAVE? (cont.)

(a) Question: R. Meir only explained why it is disadvantageous for a slave of a Kohen to go free - what will he say by the slave of a Yisrael?
(b) Answer (R. Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak): By going free, he becomes forbidden to a female slave.
(c) Question: To the contrary - he benefits, he becomes permitted to a Bas Yisrael!
(d) Answer: A slave prefers loose, immodest, unrestricted relations with a female slave.
2) WHEN ONE CAN RETRACT
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven said 'Give this Get of divorce/freedom to my wife/slave', and Reuven died - we do not give it posthumously;
(b) 'Give 100 Zuz to Peloni', and Reuven died - we give it posthumously.
(c) (Gemara - R. Yitzchak bar Shmuel, citing Rav): We only give the money if it is piled up in a corner.
(d) Question: What is the case?
1. Suggestion: If Reuven is healthy - so what if the money is gathered, it was not moved (no acquisition was made)!
(e) Answer: Rather, Reuven is a dying man.
(f) Question: Why must the money be piled up - the words of a dying man are as if they were written and handed over!
(g) Answer #1 (Rav Zevid): Really, he is healthy, as a law of Rav.
1. (Rav): Levi says to Yehudah: You have money of mine - give it to David - if all 3 are present, David acquires the money.
(h) Answer #2 (Rav Papa): Really, Reuven is a dying man; it is as a different teaching of Rav.
1. (Rav): A dying man that said 'give 100 Zuz of my property to Peloni' - if he said 'this 100 Zuz", we give it; if he did not specify which money, we do not give - perhaps he referred to a deposit of Peloni which is buried somewhere.
i. The law is, we are not concerned lest he referred to buried money.
(i) Question: Why didn't Rav Papa learn as Rav Zevid?
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(j) Answer: He understands that Rav's law applies both to a loan and to a deposit.

(k) Question: Why didn't Rav Zevid learn as Rav Papa?

(l) Answer: The Mishnah cannot be established to be dealing with a dying man.

1. Question: Why not?
2. Answer: It says, Reuven said 'Give this Get of divorce/freedom to my wife/slave', and Reuven died - we do not give it posthumously;
i. Had Reuven not died, we would give them - but this is only because Reuven said 'Give'!
ii. Regarding a dying man, even if he did not say 'Give', we give them!
iii. (Mishnah): At first, they said that if a man being led to his execution said 'Write a Get to my wife' - we write it and give it;
iv. Later, they added, even a man departing on a sea voyage or with a caravan;
v. R. Shimon Shezuri says, even a dying man.
(m) Question (Rav Ashi): Why did Rav Zevid assume that the Mishnah is as R. Shimon Shezuri - perhaps it is as Chachamim!
3) THE ACQUISITION IN THE PRESENCE OF 3
(a) (Rav): Levi says to Yehudah: You have money of mine - give it to David - if all 3 are present, David acquires the money.
(b) (Rava): Presumably, Rav's law only applies by a deposit, not by a loan - but in truth, Rav said it even by a loan!
1. (Shmuel): Levi says to Yehudah: You borrowed money from me - give it to David - if all 3 are present, Yehudah owes the money to David.
(c) Question: Why does this work?
(d) Answer #1 (Ameimar): It is as if Yehudah said when he borrowed the money, 'I am indebted to you, or anyone that will come in your stead.'
(e) Objection (Rav Ashi): If so, it should not be possible to give the loan to someone that was not born at the time the loan was given!
1. Even R. Meir, who says that a person can transfer ownership of something that did not come to the world - he can only transfer to someone in the world!
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