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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
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Chulin 65
Questions
1)
(a) Raban Gamliel states in a Bereisa that a bird which is Doreis - is Tamei
(like we learned in our Mishnah).
(b) When he goes on to say that a bird which has an extra claw, a crop and
whose Kurkevan is easy to peel is Tahor - he means, besides the fact that it
is not Doreis, as he already stated.
(c) According to Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok, in the latter case one still
needs to ensure that the bird is indeed not Doreis - by placing it on a
taught rope and seeing whether it parts its claws two on one side of the
rope and two on the other (in which case it is Tamei [because that is the
way it holds down its prey]) or not (in which case it is Tahor).
2)
(a) Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar declares a bird that catches food that one
throws it from the air in its mouth - Tamei.
(b) A Tahor bird called Tzipr'sa does this too, says Abaye - but it puts it
down before eating it, whereas Rebbi Shimon ben Elazar is speaking about a
bird who eats it immediately.
(c) Initially, we connect Acherim (according to whom we can tell the status
of a bird from the birds with which it nests), with Rebbi Eliezer (whom we
already cited earlier, and) - who considers a starling Tamei. because it
nests with ravens.
(d) We nevertheless reconcile Acherim with the Chachamim - because he is
referring to there where the bird in question also resembles the bird with
which it nests.
3)
(a) We learned in our Mishnah that the wings of a Kasher locust must cover
the majority of its body. Rav explains this to mean the majority of its
length. It might also mean - the majority of its circumference.
(b) Rav Papa therefore - requires both, for a locust to be Kasher.
(c) Rebbi Eliezer b'Rebbi Yossi in another Beraisa (in support of the Tana
Kama) learns from the Pasuk (in connection with the locusts) "Asher Lo
Kera'ayim mi'Ma'al le'Raglav" - (which is written with an 'Alef', but read
with a 'Vav') that even if a locust is born without jumping legs, and they
grow only later, it is Kasher.
(d) Abaye translates 'Zachal' as 'Iskarin'. The Beraisa cites 'Zachal' - as
the species of locusts whose jumping legs grow only later.
4)
(a) The Pasuk names four kinds of Kasher locusts (Arbeh [Guvai, in Aramaic],
Sol'am [Rishon], Chargol [Nipul] and Chagav [Gadi'an]) - adding by each one
the word "le'Miyno" or "le'Miyneihu".
(b) The first Tana includes an additional species from each
"le'Miyno/le'Miyneihu" (Tzipores Keramim from that of Arbeh, Yuchna
Yerushalmis from that of Sol'am, Artzuvya from that of Chargol and Harzavnis
from that of Chagav).
1. ... Sol'am and Yuchna Yerushalmis have a clean-shaven head, which Arbeh
and Tzipores Keramim do not.
2. ... Chargol and Artzuvya have a tail which the precious two sets do not
...
(c) ... whereas Chagav and Harzavnis differ in looks from the previous three
sets (in that it has a long head).
(d) The four above sets of locusts differ in the way that we just described.
What they all have in common is - the four Simanim as specified by our
Mishnah.
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5)
(a) Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael too, learns something from each of the
subsequent species mentioned by the Torah. Bearing in mind that the Torah
has already taught us the Heter to eat ...
1. ... Arbeh and (from "le'Miyno") Tzipores Keramim, he learns from
"le'Miyneihu" of Sol'am - that even the species Ushchaf (as well as Yuchna
Yerushalmis) which has a clean-shaven head (like it does), is Kasher too.
2. ... Arbeh and Sol'am, he learns from "le'Miyneihu" of Chargol - that
Karsefes and Shalchanis (as well as Artzuvya) which have a tail (like it
does), are permitted too.
3. ... the previous three, he learns from "le'Miyneihu" of Chagav - that
even locusts that have a long head (such as the Harzavnis) are permitted
too.
(b) When Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael says 'Eilu K'lalei K'lalos ve'Eilu
P'ratei P'ratos', he means - that there are a number of 'K'lalos' in the
Pasuk ("le'Miyneihu") and a number of 'P'ratos' ("Sol'am" and "Chagav"),
which come to teach us ...
(c) ... not just one thing each like the first Tana of the first Beraisa
explained, but a number of things (though we will explain his opinion in
more detail shortly).
6)
(a) Based on the Pasuk "Asher Lo Kera'ayim Tocheilu ... Arbeh (plus the
other three) ... le'Miyno (and le'Miyneihu)", Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael
learns the above from a 'K'lal u'P'rat u'K'lal', that it is not the
individual Simanim that each one possesses that causes the Torah to permit
it, but ...
(b) ... the four common Simanim that they all four share.
(c) Finally, Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael learns from ...
1. ... "Chagav" - that only a locust that is called 'Chagav' (which all the
above are) is Kasher, even if it has the four Simanim.
2. ... "le'Miyneihu" (both of which are otherwise superfluous) - that the
fact that it is called "Chagav" alone will not suffice, unless it also has
the four Simanim.
7)
(a) Rav Acha'i asks on the 'K'lal u'P'rat u'K'lal' - that since we are
learning the four Simanim from Arbeh, Sol'am and Chargol (and no longer from
Chagav), how can we include locusts with long heads from the 'K'lal u'P'rat
u'Ch'lal'?
(b) We suggest that perhaps, according to Tana de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael, it
will suffice for the Limud to resemble the P'rat in some regards (even if
it does not resemble them in all regards) - because perhaps he considers the
last K'lal to be the crucial one, whereas from the first one we include
anything that partially resembles the last K'lal.
(c) We counter this with 'I Hachi, Chargol Nami de'Shavi Lehu, Lo Lichtov
... ' - meaning - that in that case, we will also be able to learn Chargol
from Arbeh and Sol'am, both of which have the four Simanim, even though it
differs in that it has a tail ...
(d) ... a proof - that the Torah needs to write Sol'am, to counter the
Kashya that it is different in that it has a tail (in other words, the Limud
must resemble the P'rat in all respects). And the reason for this is
because Tana de'bei Rebbi Yishmael goes after the first K'lal, and the last
K'lal comes to include whatever is similar to the P'rat in all respects). By
the same token, we cannot learn Chagav from the others because it has a long
head.
8)
(a) Rav Acha'i therefore explains that in fact, Sol'am is superfluous too -
because we can learn it from Arbeh (like it), has no tail) and Chargol which
(like it) has a clean-shaven head.
(b) And the Torah mentions it to teach us - that a locust with a long head
is Kasher too.
(c) Despite the fact that a Sol'am does not have a long head, we learn it
from there - via the principle 'Im Eino Inyan', since it is superfluous
(because its other specifications, as we just explained, we already know
from Arbeh and Chargol).
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