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Chulin 138
CHULIN 137-140 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi
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1) THE AMOUNT OF SHEARINGS THAT IS LIABLE
(a) Version #1A (Rashi) (Rav Dimi): Rav, and R. Yochanan in
the name of R. Yanai, say that one part in 60 must be
given for Reishis ha'Gez.
(b) Version #1B (Rashi) (Rav Dimi): Rav, and R. Yochanan in
the name of R. Yanai, say that 60 Sela'im are liable to
Reishis ha'Gez.
(c) Version #2 (our text) (Rav Dimi): Rav says that 60
Sela'im are liable to Reishis ha'Gez, R. Yochanan says in
the name of R. Yanai, six.
(d) Version #1 (Rashi) Abaye: We can defend one of the
opinions you cited.
1. Version #1A: R. Yochanan himself holds (as he said
above) that the Kohen gets five (even if the Yisrael
only keeps one); he said in R. Yanai's name that the
Kohen gets only one part in 60 (even though this is
less than five, even according to the Shi'ur of R.
Dosa).
2. Question: But Rav contradicts himself - above, he
said a Maneh and a half (a sixtieth of this is less
than a Sela)!
3. Answer: Rav discusses a Maneh of 40 Sela'im, so a
Maneh and a half is 60 Sela'im, the Kohen gets a
Sela.
4. Version #1B: R. Yochanan himself holds (as he said
above) that six are liable, he said in R. Yanai's
name that 60 are liable.
(e) Version #2 (our text) Abaye: We can solve one of the
difficulties in your teaching.
1. We can resolve the contradiction in R. Yochanan - he
himself holds (as he told Isi) that 60 are liable,
he said in R. Yanai's name that six are liable.
2. (Versions #1B and 2) Question: But Rav contradicts
himself - here he says that 60 are liable, above he
said a Maneh and a half!
3. Answer: Rav discusses a Maneh of 40 Sela'im.
4. (All versions) Question: (Rashi - Rav said that
Chachamim also refer to Maneh and a half that R.
Dosa said, just they say that this is the combined
amount -) would the Tana really call 40 Sela'im a
Maneh?!
5. Answer: Yes!
i. (Beraisa): An unfinished pouch is not Mekabel
Tum'ah, even if pomegranates would not fall
out;
ii. If it was finished and then tore, it receives
Tum'ah if pomegranates would not fall out;
iii. R. Eliezer ben Yakov says, it receives Tum'ah
if it can hold balls of woof threads, each a
fourth of a Maneh of 40 Sela'im.
(f) (Mishnah): ...(One must give shearings that will weigh 5
Sela'im after they are cleaned.)
(g) (Beraisa): The Yisrael need not clean them, just he must
give enough so that after the Kohen cleans them, he will
have 5 Sela'im.
(h) (Mishnah): In order that the Kohen can make a small
garment.
(i) Question: What is the source of this?
(j) Answer (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): "la'Amod l'Shares" - it
must be fitting to make a garment a Kohen serves in, the
Avnet (belt).
(k) Question: Perhaps it must be fitting to make the [Kohen
Gadol's] Me'il (coat)!
(l) Answer: You may assume only the smallest amount, nothing
more than this.
(m) Suggestion: Perhaps it must be fitting to make a cap on
which the Tzitz rests, to fulfill "v'Samta Oso Al Pesil
Techeles"!
(n) Rejection: "Hu u'Vanav" - it must be fitting for a
regular Kohen as well.
(o) Question: Wool is not needed for the Avnet of a regular
Kohen!
1. This is not difficult according to the opinion that
a regular Kohen's Avnet is unlike the Kohen Gadol's
Avnet on Yom Kipur (which is pure linen), rather it
includes wool;
2. But according to the opinion that it is the same,
how can we answer?
(p) Answer: It is fitting for the Avnet of the Kohen Gadol;
also regular Kohanim wear Avnetim, even though theirs are
not of wool.
(q) (Mishnah): If he dyed the wool before giving it, he is
exempt...
(r) (Rav Chisda): If he sold each sheep after shearing it
(before shearing the next), he must give Reishis ha'Gez;
(s) (R. Noson bar Hoshaya): He is exempt, for when he has
five shearings, he does not own the sheep (it is not
"Tzoncha").
(t) Question (Mishnah): If one buys wool (Rashi - attached
to; Rambam - from) a Nochri's sheep, he is exempt;
1. Inference: Had he bought the sheep themselves (to
shear them), he would be liable (even though after
shearing each, it reverts to the Nochri; when he
shears the last sheep, he no longer owns the
previous ones)!
(u) Answer (Rav Chisda on behalf of R. Noson): The case is,
the Nochri sold the sheep to the Yisrael for a period of
time (longer than needed to shear them all).
(v) (Mishnah): If Shimon buys wool attached to Reuven's sheep
(if Reuven retained for himself, he is liable; if not,
Shimon is liable).
(w) Question: Who is our Tana, who holds that if the seller
retains for himself, he is liable?
(x) Answer #1 (Rav Chisda): It is R. Yehudah.
1. (Mishnah): If Levi buys trees in Yosef's [grain]
field, he must leave Pe'ah on each tree.
2. R. Yehudah says, this is only if he bought all the
trees;
i. If Yosef retained trees, he leaves Pe'ah (Rashi
- from his grain) on behalf of all the trees.
(y) Objection (Rava): You yourself explained, R. Yehudah's
law is only if Yosef started harvesting before he sold
(for then he was already obligated to leave Pe'ah)!
1. Suggestion: Perhaps here also, Reuven sold the sheep
after he started shearing them.
2. Rejection: Regarding Pe'ah, it says "uv'Kutzrechem
Es Ketzir Artzechem" - once he starts, he is liable
to leave Pe'ah on the whole field;
i. There is no obligation for Reishis ha'Gez until
he shears all five sheep!
(z) Answer #2 (Rava): Our Tana is the Tana of the following
Mishnah.
1. (Mishnah): If Reuven bought the innards of a cow
from a butcher, he gives the stomach to a Kohen,
without deducting from the price;
2. If Reuven bought by weight, he gives the stomach to
a Kohen, and does not pay for its weight.
138b---------------------------------------138b
i. Inference: We conclude that a person does not
sell (Rashi; Tosfos - buy) Matanos that must be
given to a Kohen - the same applies to Reishis
ha'Gez!
ii. Therefore, if the seller retained sheep, he
must give the full amount;
iii. If he sold all the sheep, the buyer has the
Kohen's portion.
***** PEREK SHILU'ACH HA'KEN *****
2) WHEN THE MITZVAH APPLIES
(a) (Mishnah): Shilu'ach ha'Ken (sending the mother bird)
applies in Eretz Yisrael and in Chutz la'Aretz, whether
or not the Mikdash stands; it applies to Chulin, not to
Kodshim.
(b) Kisuy ha'Dam applies to Chayos *and* birds, whether or
not they are Mezuman (owned by the slaughterer) - this is
a stringency over Shilu'ach ha'Ken, which does not apply
to Mezuman.
(c) Question: What is considered not Mezuman?
(d) Answer: Geese or chickens that nested in an orchard are
not Mezuman;
1. One is exempt if they nested in his house, and from
sending domestic doves.
(e) One is exempt from sending a Tamei bird, even if it is on
Tahor eggs;
(f) One is exempt from sending a Tahor bird sitting on Tamei
eggs.
(g) R. Eliezer obligates sending a male Korei sitting on
eggs; Chachamim exempt.
(h) (Gemara - R. Avin or R. Meisha): In all these Perakim
(from the 10th onwards) it says that the Mitzvah applies
in Eretz Yisrael and in Chutz la'Aretz - there was no
need to teach this, except for Reishis ha'Gez (and Perek
Ha'Zero'a, regarding Matanos)
1. There, it was necessary to say this, to exclude the
opinion of R. Ila'i, who exempts in Chutz la'Aretz.
(It was taught in the other Perakim for parallel
structure.)
(i) (The other of R. Avin and R. Meisha): In all these
Perakim it says whether or not the Mikdash stands - this
was needed only for Oso v'Es Beno;
1. Since it is written in the Parshah of Kodshim, one
might have thought that it applies only when we can
bring Kodshim - the Mishnah teaches, this is not so.
(j) (R. Avin and R. Maisha): In all these Perakim it says "in
Chulin and in Kodshim" - this *is* neeeded, except for
Gid ha'Nasheh.
(k) Question: Why it is necessary - should the Isur vanish
because he was Makdish the animal?!
(l) Answer: We established the Mishnah to teach about
offspring of Kodshim (it is a Chidush that the Isur of
the Gid takes effect, since the fetus is forbidden before
the Gid is formed).
(m) Objection: We established it thusly only to explain the
Chidush of saying that it applies to Kodshim;
1. Now that we can say that this is only for parallel
structure, we can say that the Mishnah discusses
Chulin that was made Hekdesh, and it is no Chidush.
(n) (Mishnah): It applies to Chulin, not to Kodshim.
(o) Question: Why are Kodshim exempt?
(p) Answer: " Shale'ach Teshalach" - the verse discusses a
bird you are commanded to send away, not to Kodshim
(which you should bring to the Gizbar).
(q) (Ravina): Likewise, the Mitzvah does not apply to a bird
that killed a person - such a bird should not be sent, it
should be taken to Beis Din to be stoned!
(r) Question: What is the case?
1. If Beis Din sentenced it to die - they would have
killed it, how was it found?!
(s) Answer: Rather, Beis Din did not sentence it; the finder
must bring it to Beis Din to fulfill "u'Vi'arta ha'Ra
mi'Kirbecha."
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