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1) TEVILAH IN A WAVE
QUESTIONS: The Gemara cites the Mishnah in Mikva'os (5:6) which states that
if a wave with forty Se'ah of water rushes out of the sea and falls onto a
person, the person becomes Tahor. The Gemara explains that this form of
Tevilah is only valid if the person is at the "head" (Roshin) of the wave,
meaning that the wave meets him as it hits the ground, and not that the crest
of the wave passes over him while it is still lifted above the ground
(Kipin). The latter is not a valid form of Tevilah, the Gemara says, since it
is like immersing "in the air."
The Gemara explains that we might have thought that the Rabanan prohibited
Tevilah even in the Roshin of a wave in order that a person not think that it
is permitted to immerse in a "Chardalis," a waterfall, or rushing stream, of
rainwater.
RASHI explains that the reason why immersing in a Chardalis of rainwater is
not a valid Tevilah is because the stream is at a steep incline, or
"Katafras," and water on an incline cannot be viewed as a single cohesive
unit of water. That is, a Chardalis is viewed as a collection of individual
drops of water, and as such it lacks the minimum required volume of a Mikvah
(forty Se'ah). The Gemara is saying that we might have thought that if it is
permitted to immerse in a wave which contains forty Se'ah of water, one might
come to immerse in a Chardalis with forty Se'ah of water (which is certainly
not a valid Tevilah, since the water is not considered joined together to
make forty Se'ah).
When Rashi discusses the identical Sugya in Chulin (31b), he stops at this
point. Here in Chagigah, though, he adds that there is an additional problem
with immersing in a stream of rainwater. Besides the problem of Katafras, the
water of a Chardalis cannot be Metaher a person because it is "Zochalin,"
flowing, and rainwater must be stationary and gathered in one place in order
to be Metaher.
We may ask a number of questions on this Sugya:
First, why is it that immersion in a wave is a valid Tevilah? Why is there no
problem of Zochalin, since the wave is flowing, and why is there no problem
of Katafras, since the water in the wave is descending at a slant? Zochalin
might not be a problem, because the Mishnah (Mikva'os 5:4) says that
oceanwater is like springwater, and not like rainwater. It is Metaher a
person even when it is flowing. Since the wave is coming from the sea, it can
be Metaher even when it is Zochalin. However, the problem of Katafras still
remains -- how can the forty Se'ah in the wave (either Rosh or Kipah) be
considered a full forty Se'ah?
Second, why did Rashi mention that immersing in a Chardalis is not valid
because of Katafras? Since the Chardalis is rainwater, it is obvious that
such a Tevilah will be invalid because it is *Zochalin*, flowing, and there
is no need for Rashi to add the additional reason of Katafras! Yet, in Chulin
(31b), Rashi omits this reason altogether, while here he adds it only as an
afterthought! (TOSFOS in Chulin asks this question on Rashi.)
Third, in general, why is it necessary to for the Chachamim to tell us that
rainwater that is flowing, Zochalin, may not be used for Tevilah? Every
instance of flowing rainwater should also be invalid for Tevilah for another
reason -- it is a Katafras, and is not considered to have in it forty
combined Se'ah of water!
ANSWERS:
There appears to be a basic argument between Rashi and Tosfos how to
understand the Mishnah of "Gal she'Nitlash," immersing in a wave, which
affects the answers to all of our questions.
The Acharonim point out that the Mishnah of "Gal she'Nitlash" seems to
contradict itself. On one hand, Tevilah in the wave, while it is Zochalin, is
valid, apparently because the oceanwater of the wave is considered like
springwater (which is valid for Tevilah even while flowing). On the other
hand, springwater is Metaher even with *less* than forty Se'ah, and yet the
Mishnah says that the wave is Metaher because it has *forty Se'ah* in it! If
it is considered like springwater, then it should be Metaher with less than
forty Se'ah. This implies that it is not considered like springwater, but
like rainwater, and if so, why is it Metaher when it is Zochalin?
The Acharonim offer different approaches to resolve this question. The TAZ
(YD 201:5) explains that the wave is really part of the sea, since it is
still attached to the sea, and it is considered like springwater which is
valid for Tevilah while flowing. It does not really need forty Se'ah;
however, it does have to cover the person entirely in order to be Metaher
him. Since, normally, forty Se'ah are required to cover a person with water,
the Mishnah mentions forty Se'ah, as a practical consideration. (See also
ME'IRI here.)
The SHACH (ibid.) argues. He maintains that the case of "Gal she'Nitlash"
refers to a wave that is *entirely* separated from the sea. Since it is no
longer part of the sea, it needs forty Se'ah, like rainwater. However, it is
Metaher b'Zochalin since it is similar to springwater in the sense that its
natural tendency is to move; that is, it has inherent energy moving it, in
contrast to rainwater, which just falls and collects. (See also TOSFOS YOM
TOV on this Mishnah, in the name of the MAHARIK.)
(Other answers to this question are offered by the RASHBA (in Toras ha'Bayis,
Hilchos Mikva'os, and cited by TOSFOS YOM TOV, ibid., from the ROSH), TOSFOS
CHADASHIM, MISHNAH ACHARONAH and others.)
The answer to this question seems to be at the core of the argument between
Rashi and Tosfos.
(a) Rashi learned the first way -- that the wave is still considered
springwater. The first question is answered easily; there is no problem of
Katafras or Zochalin in a wave since it is considered like springwater, which
is Metaher with less than forty Se'ah (i.e. even if it is a Katafras and its
volume of water may not be combined into one large forty-Se'ah Mikvah) and
with Zochalin.
As for our second question, why Rashi says that the reason Tevilah in a
Chardalis is invalid is because of Katafras, TOSFOS (DH Nigzor) quotes
RABEINU ELCHANAN who explains Rashi's logic. If the water in the wave is
normally Metaher b'Zochalin like springwater, then why should we have thought
that a person will confuse oceanwater with a Chardalis of rainwater, and use
rainwater that are Zochalin? If we would make such a Gezeirah, we should
*never* permit the use of springwater that is Zochalin lest one use rainwater
that is Zochalin! It must be that we thought Tevilah in a wave would lead to
Tevilah in a *Katafras*, but not in rainwater that is Zochalin. Thus, Rashi
is once again following the opinion of the Taz, that a wave is part of the
ocean and is identical to normal springwater.
How, though, is it possible to immerse in a Katafras of rainwater that is not
invalid for Tevilah because it is *Zochalin*? If it is Katafras, it is also
Zochalin! The answer is that we find such a scenario in a case similar to the
case at the end of this Amud, where there is a proper Mikvah (with forty
Se'ah) at the top of a hill, and a Chardalis descending from it. If the water
flowing in a Chardalis is considered to be attached to the water in the
Mikvah at the top of the hill, then one may immerse in the stream because it
is considered to be *part of the Mikvah* (which is not flowing) at the top of
the hill, even though it is a Katafras (TIFERES YAKOV in Chulin 31b). When
Rashi here adds that in addition to Katafras, one cannot immerse in a
Chardalis because it is Zochalin, he is referring to a *normal* Chardalis of
rainwater (which is not connected to a Mikvah -- similar to the wave in our
Gemara). Since it is not important to know that Halachah in order to
understand our Gemara, Rashi leaves it out altogether in Chulin.
As for our third question, the difference between the Pesul of Katafras and
of Zochalin, Rashi (DH Chardalis; Avodah Zarah 72a, DH Katafras; Shabbos 31b,
DH Chardalis) emphasizes that a Katafras is a *very steep* slope. He seems to
be distinguishing between Katafras and Zochalin based on the gradient of the
slope; a slight slope, which causes the water to run but not to rush swiftly,
is Zochalin but not Katafras. This sums up Rashi's opinion.
(b) TOSFOS (in Chulin 31b) disagrees with Rashi and explains that Chardalis
is not valid for Tevilah simply because it is Zochalin. He will answer all of
our questions differently that Rashi, because he explains the Mishnah about
Gal she'Nitlash differently. He understands (like the Shach) that the wave of
the Mishnah is *entirely* separated from the sea, and no longer is considered
to be springwater. Since it has been cut off from the sea, it is considered
like rainwater and needs forty Se'ah to be Metaher a person. The reason it is
nonetheless Metaher with Zochalin is because it is naturally propelled with
its own force, unlike rainwater (which simply falls). Anything that carries
its own force is able to be Metaher even while flowing (see also TOSFOS in
Shabbos 109a, DH Rebbi Yosi). Thus, wave-water is an exception to the normal
rule: it is a form of non-springwater that is nevertheless Metaher while
flowing. Since it is not springwater, it is indeed a possibility that the
Rabanan would prohibit Tevilah in a rushing wave, lest one permit immersing
in a Chardalis of rainwater that is rushing past, thinking that there is no
difference between a wave that is rushing past and a rain-water stream that
is rushing past; anything that is rushing past in its natural course is
Metaher b'Zochalin. (In truth, the rainwater stream is not Metaher
b'Zochalin, since its force derives solely from the pressure of the water
above it, again resorting to the force of gravity rather than tidal or other
water-jet forces.) This is why Tosfos could learn that one might confuse
immersing in a wave with immersing in normal rainwater b'Zochalin.
According to Tosfos, why is there no problem of Katafras when immersing in a
wave? Since he holds that the wave *must* indeed carry forty Se'ah of water,
and is considered like rainwater, the fact that it is falling from the air --
Katafras -- should invalidate if for Tevilah.
It appears from Tosfos in Chulin 31b (see RASHASH there) that all of the
water *in the slope of a Katafras itself* is considered attached; it is just
that the standing water above or below the slope is not considered a part of
the water in the Katafras. Consequently, if there are forty Se'ah in the
slope, it would be permitted to immerse in a Katafras, if not for the
additional problem of Zochalin. Since a wave carrying forty Se'ah of water
does not have the problem of Zochalin (as explained above), one may immerse
in a wave, and Katafras does not invalidate it for Tevilah. This answers our
first question, why the wave itself is not invalid because it is a Katafras.
The answer to the third question is now obvious as well. What does the Pesul
of Zochalin add to the Pesul of Katafras? It invalidates Tevilah *in the
water on the slope* if there are forty Se'ah of water on the slope. (Tosfos
himself explicitly writes this in Chulin, ibid.)
(c) We have presented the ways that Rashi and Tosfos in our Sugya answer our
third question (what the difference is between the Pesulim of Zochalin and
Katafras). It is interesting to note that an entirely new approach to this
subject appears in the HAGAHOS HA'GRA (YD 201:6) in the name of the RIVASH.
According to that approach, the two Pesulim of Katafras and Zochalin are
indeed one and the same! The reason rainwater cannot be Metaher while flowing
is because a flowing body of water is invalid for Tevilah because it is
Katafras. Its forty Se'ah cannot be combined to produce one cohesive Mikvah;
instead, it is like thousands of tiny droplets of water (that happen to be
next to each other). Tevilah in Zochalin is like Tevilah in a Mikvah that
lacks forty Se'ah of water.
Springwater, though, is Metaher b'Zochalin. Since it is not necessary to have
forty Se'ah of springwater for Tevilah, and even the smallest amount that
covers the object being immersed suffices, one may immerse in springwater
that is flowing. Katafras (meaning Zochalin) cannot invalidate it for
Tevilah, since Katafras just breaks it up into drops of water less than forty
Se'ah each, and forty Se'ah is not necessary when immersing in springwater!
(RASHI himself in Shabbos 109a, DH Kol ha'Yamim, appears to cite a similar
explanation to that of the Rivash. After a lengthy explanation of the Gemara,
he says "I have not learned this way." It is not clear which part of his
explanation he is rejecting. According to what we have explained here, he
might be rejecting the approach of the Rivash, who equates the Pesulim of
Zochalin and Katafras.)
2) HALACHAH: HAVING IN MIND WHY ONE IS WASHING HIS HANDS
OPINIONS: The Gemara concludes that when washing one's hands for Chulin,
one's Netilas Yadayim is valid for Chulin even if he does not have Kavanah.
What is the Halachah with regard to eating bread of Chulin after washing
one's hands without Kavanah, such as when a pail of water fell on one's hands
and he did not have intention that he was washing his hands in order to eat
bread?
(a) The BEIS YOSEF (OC 159) writes that most of the Rishonim and Poskim
maintain that one does not need Kavanah during the Netilas Yadayim in order
to eat bread, and the Netilas Yadayim is valid if a pail of water falls on
one's hands.
(b) The RASHBA (Toras ha'Bayis 6:4 and Mishmeres ha'Bayis there; Teshuvos
1:510) writes that the Gemara and Tosefta imply that one *does* need Kavanah
for his Netilas Yadayim to be valid. He cites the Gemara in Chulin which says
that one may wash one's hands in the morning and have in mind to eat much
later in the day, as long as one stipulates that he plans on eating later
with this Netilas Yadayim. It goes without saying that this Netilas Yadayim
remains valid for later only when the person is careful not to touch anything
that would make his hands Tamei, for otherwise it would not help to make any
stipulation (Rashi, Rambam). Why, then, does he have to stipulate at the time
that he washes his hands in the morning that he plans on eating later? If no
Kavanah is necessary for Netilas Yadayim, then even without a stipulation,
his Netilas Yadayim should be valid, for even if water just fell on his
hands, he would be able to eat later in the day as long as he kept his hands
Tahor! It must be that in order for the Netilas Yadayim to be valid and
enable him to eat bread, he must have explicit intention that the purpose of
his washing is in order to eat bread.
In addition, the Tana Kama in the Tosefta (in Yadayim) says that if one
person poured water on the hands of another person, and either one of them
had in mind that the washing was in order to eat bread, it is a valid Netilas
Yadayim. Rebbi Yosi there argues and says that it is not a valid Netilas
Yadayim. We see from there, says the Rashba, that even the Tana Kama requires
that at least one of them have Kavanah.
How does the Rashba address our Gemara, though, which says that one does
*not* need Kavanah when washing one's hands for Chulin? The Rashba suggests
several answers:
1. In his TESHUVOS (ibid.), the Rashba suggests that our Gemara is discussing
one who wants to handle Chulin Al Taharas Terumah; that is, he wants to
conduct himself in a stringent manner and treat all of his Chulin as if it
were Terumah. In such a case, the Rabanan were not so stringent as to give
this Chulin the full status of Terumah so that it require Kavanah for Netilas
Yadayim. In contrast, when one wants to *eat* bread of Chulin (whether or not
it is being treated like Terumah), the Rabanan enacted that one wash his
hands because of "Serach Terumah" (practicing for Terumah), and they gave it
a status similar to that of Terumah (which needs Kavanah), but not completely
like Terumah (which requires the Kavanah of both the person pouring the water
and the person having his hands washed, whereas Chulin requires only the
Kavanah of one of them).
2. In TORAS HA'BAYIS, the Rashba adds that the Gemara here follows the
opinion of Rebbi Akiva who says that a person's hands can become a Rishon
l'Tum'ah (for example, when one places his hands into a Bayis afflicted with
a Nega of Tzara'as), and thus they need to be washed because they are a
Rishon and can be Metamei other Chulin (and not because of "Serach Terumah"
or because they are Stam Yadayim, which are only a Sheni). Thus, in a case
where one's hands are a Rishon l'Tum'ah, even when *touching* (and not just
eating) Chulin one needs Netilas Yadayim because a Rishon will be Metamei an
item of Chulin. In such a case (to permit *touching* Chulin) one does not
need Kavanah.
3. The ME'IRI explains that when this Sugya, as well as the Mishnah, refers
to Netilas Yadayim of Chulin, it is not discussing the common Netilas Yadayim
which is done before eating bread at a meal, for that has nothing to do with
the subject of the Mishnah which is discussing Tum'ah and Taharah. Rather,
the Me'iri says that the Mishnah means that even Chulin could become Tamei
from a Sheni l'Tum'ah when a person starts to eat the bread of Chulin and his
hands are Tamei (with Sheni l'Tum'ah). When he starts eating the bread of
Chulin, that food can then become Tamei. (It has nothing to do with the laws
of washing in order to eat a Se'udah, but with the laws of Tum'ah and
Taharah. See Insights to 18:2.)
Although the RA'AH in BEDEK HA'BAYIS argues with the Rashba, the RITVA
(Chulin 106b) does mention that the Netilas Yadayim for a meal of Chulin
needs Kavanah.
HALACHAH: The SHULCHAN ARUCH (OC 159:13) rules that l'Chatchilah, one must
have Kavanah that he is washing for eating bread when he washes Netilas
Yadayim, like the Rashba. The BI'UR HALACHAH refers to the REMA (OC 158:7)
who says that although one should be stringent like the Rashba, one should
not recite a Berachah if one needs to wash a second time because he did not
have Kavanah the first time.
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