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Bava Metzia 113
BAVA METZIA 112-115 - these Dafim have been dedicated anonymously l'Iluy
Nishmas Tzirel Nechamah bas Tuvya Yehudah.
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1) AFTER THE WAGES ARE DUE
(a) Question: Do we suspect that a worker (who claims payment
after the due time) is trying to steal?
(b) Answer: Two Chazakos support the employer, only one
supports the worker.
1. We have a Chazakah that an employer will not
transgress "Lo Salin", and that a worker does not
delay claiming his wages;
2. The only Chazakah supporting the worker is that we
do not suspect him of stealing.
(c) (Mishnah): If witnesses saw the worker demand his wages,
he swears and collects after the time.
(d) Question: Why do witnesses change things - we see the
worker demanding his wages!
(e) Answer (Rav Asi): Witnesses saw the worker demand his
wages before the due time.
(f) Question: Perhaps the employer paid him afterwards!
(g) Answer (Abaye): Witnesses saw the worker claiming the
entire time until the deadline.
(h) Question: After this, the employer is never believed?!
(i) Answer (Rav Chama bar Ukva): The worker is only believed
to swear (and collect) the next day.
2) TAKING A SECURITY
(a) (Mishnah): If Reuven lent Shimon, he may only Memashken
him (take a security from Shimon's house) through Beis
Din.
1. He may not enter Shimon's house to take it -
"Ba'Chutz Ta'amod".
(b) If Shimon has two vessels, Reuven only takes one.
(c) Reuven returns a pillow (when Shimon needs it) at night,
and a plow by day.
(d) If Shimon dies, he need not return it to the heirs (he
may sell it to collect the debt);
(e) R. Shimon ben Gamliel says, (even when Shimon is alive)
Reuven never need return the security after 30 days -
after that, he sells it in Beis Din.
(f) (Gemara - Shmuel): The messenger of Beis Din may
Menate'ach (take a security from Shimon in the market),
but he may not Memashken him.
(g) Question (Mishnah): If Reuven lent Shimon, he may only
Memashken him through Beis Din.
1. We see, he may Memashken him through Beis Din!
(h) Answer (Shmuel): The Mishnah means, he may only
Menate'ach.
(i) Support (Mishnah): He may not enter Shimon's house to
take it - "Ba'Chutz Ta'amod".
1. Question: Who is forbidden to enter?
i. It cannot mean Reuven - the first clause
teaches this!
2. Answer: Rather, the messenger of Beis Din is
forbidden.
(j) Rejection: No - the Mishnah teaches that Reuven may not
Memashken him, but Beis Din may;
1. Reuven may not even Menate'ach him (Bach - this is a
decree), so he will not come to enter his house.
(k) Question (Rav Yosef): "Lo Yachavol Rechayim va'Rachev" -
but one may Memashken other things!
1. "Lo Sachavol Beged Almanah" - one may Memashken
garments of other people!
2. Question: Who may Memashken other things or people?
i. It cannot be the lender - "Lo Savo El Beiso
La'avot Avoto"!
3. Answer: Rather, a messenger of Beis Din.
(l) Answer (Rav Papa brei d'Rav Nachman): Really, the verses
speak of the lender, he transgresses an extra Lav if he
takes a millstone or a widow's garment.
(m) (Beraisa) Question: "Ba'Chutz Ta'amod" - we already know
that the borrower will take out the security!
1. The Torah says "veha'Ish" to include a messenger of
Beis Din.
2. Suggestion: A messenger of Beis Din is like the
borrower (he may enter the borrower's house).
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(n) Answer: No, he is like the lender (he may not enter the
borrower's house).
(o) Question (Beraisa): "Im Chavol Tachbol Salmas Re'echa" -
the verse speaks of a messenger of Beis Din.
1. Question: Perhaps it speaks of the lender!
2. Rejection: "Lo Savo El Beiso La'avot Avoto" - the
lender is already forbidden - rather, it speaks of a
messenger of Beis Din.
(p) Answer: Tana'im argue whether or not a messenger of Beis
Din may Memashken, Shmuel holds like the following Tana.
1. (Beraisa #1): If a messenger of Beis Din comes to
Memashken, he may not enter the house - "Ba'Chutz
Ta'amod veha'Ish (the borrower)" will take out the
security.
3) LEAVING VESSELS FOR THE BORROWER
(a) (Beraisa #2): If a lender comes to Memashken, he may not
enter the house - "Ba'Chutz Ta'amod";
1. A messenger of Beis Din may enter the house to
Memashken him.
(b) He may not Memashken things used to make food;
(c) He leaves a rich borrower with two beds and a felt
blanket; he leaves a poor borrower with two beds and a
mattress of reeds.
(d) He leaves what the borrower needs himself, not for the
borrower's wife and children.
(e) Just as we Mesader for a borrower, also for someone that
owes money of Erchin.
(f) Question: Just the contrary - the Torah teaches Sidur for
someone that owes Erchin!
(g) Correction: Rather, just as we Mesader for someone that
owes Erchin, also for a borrower.
(h) (Beraisa): He leaves a rich borrower with two beds and a
felt blanket; he leaves a poor borrower with two beds and
a mattress of reeds.
(i) Question: For whom does he leave the second bed?
1. It cannot be for his wife or children - the Beraisa
continues, he leaves for the borrower himself, not
for his wife and children!
(j) Answer: Both are for the borrower, one is to eat on, one
is to sleep on.
1. (Shmuel): I know how to cure anything, with three
exceptions: one who eats a bitter date on an empty
stomach, one who girds a belt of wet flax, and one
who does not walk four Amos after eating before he
sleeps. (Therefore, it is advisable to have a second
bed for sleeping at least four Amos from where he
eats.)
(k) (A reciter of Beraisos): Just as we Mesader for someone
that owes Erchin, also for a borrower.
(l) Objection (Rav Nachman): We even sell the borrower's
property, all the more so we do not Mesader for him!
1. Question: Do we really sell his property?!
i. (Mishnah): Reuven returns a pillow at night,
and a plow by day.
2. Answer: The Beraisa was said according to R. Shimon
ben Gamliel, who says that we sell a security after
30 days.
i. (Mishnah): R. Shimon ben Gamliel says, Reuven
need not return the security after 30 days -
after 30 days, he sells it in Beis Din.
3. Question: How do we know that R. Shimon ben Gamliel
says that the security is sold entirely to pay the
debt?
i. Perhaps for 30 days, the security is returned
intact; after this, an expensive security is
sold, and the lender buys a (cheaper)
replacement fitting for the borrower!
4. Answer: R. Shimon ben Gamliel holds that even an
expensive security is fitting for any Yisrael.
4) BENEI YISRAEL ARE SONS OF KINGS
(a) (Abaye): R. Shimon ben Gamliel, R. Shimon, R. Yishmael
and R. Akiva all hold that Benei Yisrael are sons of
kings.
1. R. Shimon ben Gamliel - (Mishnah): We may not move
Luf (a type of legume) nor mustard on Shabbos, since
they cannot be used until cooked or ground;
2. R. Shimon ben Gamliel permits Luf, since it is food
for ravens (it is fitting for sons of kings to raise
ravens).
3. R. Shimon - (Mishnah): Sons of kings may rub scented
oil on their wounds on Shabbos, for they anoint
themselves with scented oil even when they have no
wound;
4. R. Shimon says, all Benei Yisrael are sons of kings
(and are permitted).
5. R. Yishmael and R. Akiva - (Beraisa): Shimon owed
1000 Zuz, he was wearing a garment worth 10,000 - we
make him sell it and buy something fitting for
himself;
6. (Beraisa - R. Yishmael and R. Akiva): Any Yisrael is
fitting for such a garment (he need not sell it).
(b) Question: Earlier, we suggested that an expensive
security is sold, and the lender buys a (cheaper)
replacement fitting for the borrower;
1. There are blankets and pillows of varying qualities
- but a plow is a plow!
(c) Answer (Rava bar Rabah): The security was a silver plow.
(d) Question (Rav Chaga): Why can't the lender say 'I am not
responsible for your livelihood'?
(e) Answer (Abaye): Indeed, the Torah makes him responsible -
"U'Lcha Tihyeh Tzedakah"!
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