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Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Bava Metzia 2
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1) ACQUISITION OF A FOUND OBJECT
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven and Shimon are holding a garment;
Reuven says 'I found it', and so does Shimon; Reuven says
'it is mine', and so does Shimon. Each swears that he
does not own less than half, and they divide it.
(b) If Reuven says 'it is all mine', and Shimon says 'it is
half mine', Reuven swears that he does not own less than
three quarters, and Shimon swears that he does not own
less than 1 quarter; each gets as he swore.
(c) Two men are riding on an animal, or 1 is riding, the
other is leading it; each says 'it is mine'. Each swears
that he does not own less than half, and they divide it.
1. When they admit, or when they have witnesses, they
divide without an oath.
(d) (Gemara) Question: Why must the Mishnah say 'Reuven says
'I found it', and so does Shimon; Reuven says 'it is
mine', and so does Shimon' - it suffices for each to make
1 claim!
(e) Answer #1: Indeed, each makes 1 claim - each says 'I
found it, and it is mine'.
1. Question: It should suffices to teach 'I found it',
we would know 'it is mine'!
2. Answer: If it only said 'I found it', one might have
thought that it means 'I saw it', and he acquires
through seeing alone - therefore, it says 'it is
mine' to teach that he does not acquire through
seeing alone.
3. Question: Could one have really thought that he
acquires through seeing alone?!
i. But Ravnai taught "And you will find it" - this
connotes, it came to your hand.
4. Answer: Yes, when the Torah says "And you will find
it", it connotes that it came to your hand - but the
Tana speaks as people speak;
i. People say 'I found it' once they see it.
5. Question: It should suffices to teach 'It is mine'!
6. Answer: The Tana wanted to teach that one does not
acquire through seeing alone;
i. By teaching 'I found it' and additionally 'it
is mine', we learn that mere finding (seeing)
does not acquire.
2) ARGUING OVER A SALE
(a) Objection: How can we say that each makes 1 claim - the
Mishnah says 'Reuven says 'I found it', Shimon says 'I
found it'; Reuven says 'It is mine'...'!
(b) Answer #2 (Rav Papa): The Mishnah teaches 2 cases - 'I
found it' is when they argue over a found object, 'it is
mine' is when each claims to have bought it.
(c) We need to hear both cases.
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1. If we only heard by a found object - one might have
thought, only there Chachamim imposed an oath on
them, because a person justifies grabbing a found
object and claiming it (in order to receive half),
since he does not take what another person toiled
for;
2. If we only heard by a bought object - one might have
thought, only there Chachamim imposed an oath on
them, because a person justifies claiming what was
sold to another person;
i. He reasons - we both paid for it - I need it, I
will take it, he can get his money back and buy
another.
(d) Question: Why must they swear regarding a bought object -
surely, it was sold to the one who paid!
(e) Answer: The case is, the seller received money from both
of them, from one willingly, the other forced the money
into his hand; we do not know from whom he accepted
willingly.
3) AS WHOM IS THE MISHNAH?
(a) Suggestion: Our Mishnah is not as Ben Nanas, for he does
not allow both parties to swear, since surely one is
swearing falsely.
(b) Rejection: It can be as Ben Nanas - he only said that (in
a dispute whether workers were paid,) when it is
impossible that both oaths are true;
1. Here, perhaps both oaths are true, e.g. if they
picked it up at the same time, so each acquired
half.
(c) Suggestion: Our Mishnah is not as Sumchus, for he holds
that when in doubt, we divide the money without an oath.
1. Question: But nor is it as Chachamim - they say, to
take money from another, one must bring proof!
2. Answer: It can be as Chachamim - they only said that
one must bring proof to take money from one who
holds it (or has a Chazakah on it) by himself;
i. Here, both are holding it, they swear and
divide it.
ii. But Sumchus holds, even when 1 person holds it,
they divide it without swearing - all the more
so, when both are holding it, they divide it
without swearing!
(d) .Rejection: It can even be as Sumchus - he only said that
they divide it without swearing when both parties are
unsure - but here, both parties make definite claims,
they swear and divide it.
(e) Question: Rabah holds that Sumchus says that they divide
without swearing even when both make definite claims -
can he establish the Mishnah as Sumchus?
(f) [Version #1 (Rashi) Answer #1: Yes - Sumchus only said
that they divide it without swearing when surely, 1 side
stands to lose;
1. Here, perhaps each side gets what it truly owns,
they swear and divide.
(g) Question: This is illogical!
1. If they divide without swearing when it surely
belongs to 1, and that side surely loses - all the
more so when it is possible that neither side
loses!]
(h) [Version #2 (Tosfos) Answer #1: Yes - Sumchus only said
that they divide it without swearing when the doubt is
not due to their claims, even without their claims, Beis
Din had a doubt;
1. Here, the doubt is because of their claims, they
swear and divide.
(i) Question: This is illogical!
1. There, even without their claims, we know that it
belongs to 1 (but we do not know which), they divide
without swearing;
2. Here, the doubt is because of their claims - had
they kept silent, one could have said that each owns
half, all the more so they should divide without
swearing!]
(j) Answer #2: Sumchus can admit here - the oath of our
Mishnah is only mid'Rabanan.
1. (R. Yochanan): The oath of our Mishnah is a
Rabbinical enactment, in order that people will not
grab onto others' property and claim it.
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