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Bava Metzia, 37
BAVA METZIA 37 - dedicated in honor of the birth of Miriam Breina Katz to
Gidon and Rivka Katz of Bnei Brak.
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1) MAKING THE "SHOMER" PAY EACH CLAIMANT
QUESTION: The Mishnah discusses the case of "Maneh Shelishis." Two people
deposited money with a Shomer. One person gave one Maneh to the Shomer, and
another person gave two Maneh to the Shomer. Each person now claims that it
is he who gave two to the Shomer. The Tana Kama rules that the Shomer gives
one Maneh to each claimant, and the third Maneh is left in escrow until
Eliyahu comes, or until one of the claimants can prove that it is his.
Why is the Shomer not obligated to give *two* Maneh to each of the
claimants? The Shomer admits that each person deposited at least one Maneh
with him, and to each claimant he says that he does not know whether it was
that claimant who gave him the second Maneh. Since the Shomer admits to part
of each claimant's claim, he should have to make a Shevu'ah of "Modeh
b'Miktzas." However, since he does not know if the claimant gave him the
second Maneh, he cannot swear that he does not owe the second Maneh to that
claimant. Consequently, he should be obligated to pay, because there is a
rule (Bava Metzia 98a) that whenever a person is obligated to make a
Shevu'ah and he is unable to swear, he must pay ("Mitoch she'Eino Yachol
li'Shava, Meshalem"). (RAMBAN, RASHBA)
ANSWERS:
(a) The RAMBAN answers that the Torah only requires a person to make a
Shevu'ah when he denies owing money and keeps that money for himself. The
Shevu'ah is intended to motivate the person to admit that he owes the money.
(This would apply in our case if the Shomer claimed that each person only
gave him one Maneh, and no one gave him two. He would have to make a
Shevu'ah of "Modeh b'Miktzas" to confirm his claim.) In our case, though,
the Shomer admits to owing all of the money -- he admits that he owes three
Maneh, and thus there is no reason to obligate him to make a Shevu'ah (and
to obligate him to pay *four* since he cannot make a Shevu'ah). He is not
denying anything, and he is admitting to everything, and thus there is no
purpose in requiring him to make a Shevu'ah (for the purpose of a Shevu'ah
is to motivate a person to admit that he owes).
The RASHBA explains further. Had the Shomer known to which claimant the
extra Maneh belonged, he certainly would have been believed and he would not
have had to make any Shevu'ah, because he would have been admitting to the
entire claim (of three Maneh) and not denying anything. Therefore, when he
says that he does not know who owns the third Maneh, there is no obligation
for him to make a Shevu'ah because he is not denying anything.
(The NESIVOS (76:2) also writes that in such a case, when the Shomer says
that he knows which claimant gave him only one Maneh, he is believed because
he has a Chazakah that a person does not sin with someone else's money. That
is, the Shomer is not stealing the Maneh for himself and therefore he is not
suspected of lying.)
(b) The NESIVOS (76:2) gives an answer similar to that of the Ramban. He
adds that when the Shomer says to one of the claimants, "I know for sure
that you are the one who gave me only a Maneh and the other person is the
one who gave me two," he does not have to make a Shevu'ah of "Modeh
b'Miktzas," even though he is denying part of one of the claimant's claim,
because the whole purpose of the Shevu'ah of "Modeh b'Miktzas" is to ensure
that the defendant is not bluffing and is merely trying to gain more time to
pay back. Here, that reason does not apply, because the Shomer clearly
states that the other Maneh which is being claimed from him belongs to the
second claimant. Hence, there is no obligation to make a Shevu'ah.
(c) RAV ISER ZALMAN MELTZER zt'l in EVEN HA'EZEL (in additions at the end of
Sefer Mishpatim) answers this question based on the words of the KETZOS
HA'CHOSHEN (#73). The Ketzos ha'Choshen writes that we only find an
obligation to make a Shevu'ah d'Oraisa when the Beis Din tells the defendant
that he must either swear or pay. Here, Beis Din cannot tell the Shomer to
pay two Maneh to each claimant, because he certainly is not obligated to
give back more than three Maneh. Therefore, he has no obligation to make a
Shevu'ah. (I. Alsheich)
37b
2) LEAVING AN ITEM WHOSE OWNERSHIP IS IN DOUBT IN THE HANDS OF NO ONE
QUESTION: The Gemara cites a Mishnah (Yevamos 118b) which discusses a case
in which a person stole something from one of five people. Each of the five
people claims that the Ganav stole the item from him, and the Ganav does not
know from which person he stole. Rebbi Tarfon rules that the Ganav "places
the stolen item among them and leaves." The Gemara questions this ruling
from the statement of Rebbi Aba bar Zavda, who states that an item which is
"Safek Hinu'ach" may not be picked up, and if it was picked up then the
person may not return it. Rather, as Rashi explains, the item must remains
in the hands of someone until the identity of the owner is clarified. So,
too, in the case of the Ganav who does not know from whom he stole, the
stolen item should remain in his hands until the identity of the owner
becomes known. The Gemara answers that this indeed is what Rebbi Tarfon is
saying. He is saying that the Ganav should first place the stolen item in
front of the claimants in Beis Din and say, "Clarify to whom this belongs,"
and then he should take the item and leave, keeping the item in his
possession until the owner's identity becomes known.
Why does the Gemara question Rebbi Tarfon's ruling from a statement of Rebbi
Aba bar Zavda? It could have asked from our Mishnah (37a) which -- in the
case of "Maneh Shelishis" -- teaches that an item whose ownership is in
doubt must be left in the possession of the person holding it! (SHITAH
MEKUBETZES)
ANSWERS:
(a) The MAHARSHA and MAHARAM SHIF answer that the Mishnah does not pose a
question on the ruling of Rebbi Tarfon. In the case of the Mishnah, the
money of doubtful ownership came into the hands of the Shomer in a
permissible manner (it was deposited with him). The owner of the money
should have been careful to make it clear that he was the one depositing the
additional Maneh. Therefore, the Shomer keeps the money until the true owner
brings proof that it belongs to him. In contrast, in the case of the Ganav,
the item came into the hands in a prohibited manner -- he stole it. Perhaps
in such a case he is not permitted to keep the item in his possession, but
he must remove it from his possession. Therefore, the Gemara questions Rebbi
Tarfon's ruling from the statement of Rebbi Aba bar Zavda, who is discussing
a case in which the item also came into the hands of the bearer in a
prohibited manner, and yet he rules that the item must remain in the
possession of the bearer until the true owner brings proof that it is his.
This answer suffices only according to the opinion that maintains that the
third Maneh remains in the hands of the Shomer until the identity of the
owner is clarified. According to that opinion, it makes sense to
differentiate between the case of our Mishnah and the case of the Ganav who
stole from one of five people. However, according to the opinion (that of
the MORDECHAI cited by the REMA CM 300:1) that maintains that the third
Maneh is left in escrow in Beis Din and is not left in the hands of the
Shomer, there should be no difference between the case of our Mishnah and
the case of the Ganav who stole from one of five people. If, in the case of
our Mishnah, the third Maneh is left in escrow in Beis Din, then certainly
the Ganav should leave the stolen item in Beis Din and not abandon it in
front of the claimants!
(b) The MA'AYAN HA'CHOCHMAH answers based on the RITVA as follows. The
Gemara could not have questioned Rebbi Tarfon's ruling from our Mishnah,
because in the case of our Mishnah, if the Shomer were to leave the third
Maneh in front of the claimants, then the claimant who is lying might take
it for himself, causing the true owner to lose. The Shomer -- by leaving the
money in front of the claimants -- will effectively be aiding the liar in
his unlawful gain. Therefore, it is better that the third Maneh be left in
Beis Din than to allow for the possibility that the liar will take it (even
though, by leaving it in Beis Din, the true owner also does not get it, but
at least this way he has a chance of retrieving it in the future). In
contrast, the Ganav who stole the item has an obligation to return it, and
as long as that obligation has not been fulfilled, the item is in his hands
b'Isur, illegally. Therefore, there are grounds to suggest that he should
leave the item in front of the claimants, because doing so will allow for
the possibility that the rightful owner will take it, thereby absolving the
Ganav of the Isur that he did. If he leaves the item in his possession, or
in Beis Din, then he *certainly* will not fulfill his obligation to return
it.
(c) The ERECH SHAI answers that the Gemara could not question Rebbi Tarfon's
ruling from the ruling in our Mishnah, because there is a basic difference
between a stolen item and a Pikadon. In the case of a Shomer holding a
Pikadon, the Shomer's possession of the item that was deposited with him by
the owner is considered a Chezkas Mamon on behalf of the owner. In the case
of our Mishnah, the Shomer's hold on the money gives each of the owners a
Chezkas Mamon on the money. (This is like the opinion of Tosfos at the
beginning of the Masechta. Tosfos says that we do not apply the rule of "Kol
d'Alim Gavar" when the two claimants are each holding on to the item and
have a Chezkas Mamon. In the case of the third Maneh, it is as if each
claimant is holding the Maneh because their Shomer is holding it. Therefore,
the Shomer is not permitted to remove the Maneh from his possession, because
doing so would thereby be removing the Maneh from the Chazakah of its
rightful owner.
In contrast, a Ganav who is holding a stolen item is not considered to be
holding it on behalf of the owner, such that the owner has a Chezkas Mamon
on the item (proof for this is the fact that the owner cannot be Makdish the
item or sell it while it is in the hands of the Ganav). Therefore, we might
have thought that the Ganav can leave the stolen item in front of the
different claimants, and let the rule of "Kol d'Alim Gavar" take effect.
Therefore, the Gemara questions Rebbi Tarfon's ruling from Rebbi Aba bar
Zavda's statement, and not from our Mishnah. In Rebbi Aba bar Zavda's case
of "Safek Hinu'ach," the finder is not holding the object on behalf of
anyone, and yet he still may not remove it from his possession. The Gemara
asks that the same should apply to the case of the Ganav. (I. Alsheich)
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