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Bava Metzia, 17
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1) WHEN A BORROWER IS BELIEVED TO SAY HE PAID
QUESTION: Rav Zevid in the name of Rav Nachman rules that there is no
difference between a case in which Beis Din formally passed a verdict
requiring a borrower to pay his debt ("Tzei Ten Lo"), and a case in which
Beis Din merely told the borrower to pay ("Chayav Atah Liten Lo"), but did
not actually pass a verdict. In both cases, if the debtor later claims that
he paid, he is believed, since the loan was made verbally and no Shtar was
written.
The Gemara earlier (15a), though, seems to contradict this. The Gemara there
says that once the claim against the borrower has been brought to court
("k'she'Amad ba'Din"), it is as if the loan was written in a Shtar, because
the matter of the loan becomes publicized. Hence, if someone bought property
from the borrower after the claim was brought to court, the lender may take
that property from the buyer, just like he may take the property from the
buyer when the loan was written in a Shtar.
Why, then, in the case of our Gemara, is the borrower believed to say that
he paid back the debt? Since the claim was brought to court, it should be
like a loan that is written in a Shtar, and a borrower is not believed to
say that he paid in the case of a loan written in a Shtar (rather, he must
bring witnesses, or show a receipt from the lender)!
ANSWERS:
(a) The RIF answers that the Gemara earlier was referring to a case in
which the borrower does not agree to obey the words of Beis Din, and he
refuses to pay. The loan in such a case then becomes like a loan written in
a Shtar. In the case of our Gemara, though, the borrower left Beis Din with
the intent to comply and pay his debt. In such a case, when he later claims
that he paid, he is believed.
(b) RABEINU CHANANEL and RABEINU EFRAIM answer that the fact that the case
is brought to Beis Din does not automatically make the loan to be like a
loan written in a Shtar, and thus the borrower is believed to say that he
paid. When the Gemara earlier says that coming to Beis Din makes the loan
like a loan written in a Shtar, it means that the Beis Din actually wrote a
Shtar stating that the borrower owes money to the lender. The Gemara there
is teaching that even though the Shtar was not written at the behest of the
borrower, it is still considered a fully-valid Shtar Chov, and it enables
the lender to collect from the Lekuchos.
(c) The RAMBAN, RASHBA, RAN, and RITVA answer that when the Gemara earlier
says that the loan becomes like a loan written in a Shtar by virtue of the
case having been brought to Beis Din, it means that it is like a loan
written in a Shtar *only* with regard to collecting from Lekuchos. This is
because the loan becomes public knowledge when the case is brought to
court, and thus it was the buyers who caused themselves a loss by buying
land from someone who was known to be in debt. In the case of our Gemara,
though, the borrower is believed ot say that he paid back the loan, because
even when the loan is written in a Shtar he can claim that he paid; it is
just that the lender has a counter-claim -- if the borrower paid back the
loan, then why is the lender still holding a Shtar Chov? This counter-claim
applies, though, only when the lender actually has a Shtar. When he has no
Shtar, even though the case appeared before Beis Din, there is no
counter-claim to the borrower's claim that he paid.
2) WHEN A BORROWER IS NOT BELIEVED TO SAY HE PAID
QUESTION: Rav Zevid in the name of Rav Nachman rules that with regard to
believing the borrower when he claims that he paid back the debt, there is
no difference between a case in which he claims that he paid after Beis Din
formally passed a verdict requiring him to pay his debt ("Tzei Ten Lo"), and
a case in which he claims that he paid after Beis Din merely told the
borrower to pay ("Chayav Atah Liten Lo"), but did not actually pass a
verdict. The difference between those two statements of Beis Din arises when
the borrower claims that he paid and witnesses testify that he did not pay.
When Beis Din passed a verdict requiring him to pay, and he then claimed
that he paid and witnesses contradicted him, he is "Huchzak Kafran" and when
he claims later that he paid, he is not believed without proof. In contrast,
when Beis Din merely told him to pay without passing a verdict, and he then
claimed that he paid and witnesses contradicted him, he is not "Huchzak
Kafran" and is believed later when he claims that he paid (even without
bringing proof), because we assume that when he contradicted the witnesses,
he was merely trying to get more time to pay back, rationalizing that he
would wait until Beis Din looked further into the case.
How can the witnesses contradict the borrower who says that he paid, making
him "Huchzak Kafran?" How can the witnesses testify that an even *did not*
happen, and that the borrower *did not* pay?
ANSWERS:
(a) Most Rishonim (RASHBA, RITVA, RAN, ROSH) explain that the case in which
the borrower is "Huchzak Kafran" is where he claims that he paid back the
loan on a certain day at a certain time, and then the witnesses testify that
he was with them at that time, showing that he is not telling the truth.
(When Beis Din merely told him to pay but did not yet pass a verdict, he is
not considered to be "Huchzak Kafran," since we assume that he was merely
trying to delay paying until Beis Din looks into the case, and he did not
have intention to steal.)
(b) RASHI explains that the case in which the borrower becomes "Huchzak
Kafran" (and loses his trustworthiness to say later that he paid) is where
the witnesses were present when the lender demanded his money from the
borrower, and the borrower refused to pay. Since he so brazenly and
blatantly disobeyed the verdict of Beis Din in front of witnesses, he is
"Huchzak Kafran" and is not believed later to claim that he paid (without
bringing proof).
The Rishonim challenge Rashi's explanation. Even when the borrower refuses
to pay in front of witnesses, he should *not* be "Huchzak Kafran," since
there, too, perhaps he did not have money at the time and he was merely
trying to delay for time!
The Achronim offer various approaches to explain the words of Rashi.
1. The GIDULEI TERUMAH (II:12:3) answers that Rashi maintains that if the
intention of the borrower in denying that he paid was merely to gain more
time, then he would not have done it in such a way that was so brazen.
Instead of blatantly refusing to obey the ruling of Beis Din, he would have
found some other way to gain more time. Since he was so brazen, it must be
that he was outright lying and attempting to steal, and he had no intention
to pay later.
2. The LECHEM ABIRIM answers that when Rashi writes that the borrower "did
not pay" when the lender demanded repayment from him in front of witnesses,
he means that the borrower said, "I do not *want* to pay," revealing that he
had no intention of paying at all, even later. Had his intention been merely
to delay and gain more time, then he would not have said that he does not
*want* to pay, but he would have simply evaded paying at that moment.
Some Rishonim, however, add additional proof to their question on Rashi's
explanation. They ask that even if the borrower said that he does not *want*
to pay, we should still assume that he is attempting to gain more time, and
not that he is showing that he has no intention of ever paying. The ROSH
(1:42) asserts that whenever it is possible to find some merit in the
borrower's claim -- and not declare him to be a liar and a thief -- we give
him the benefit of the doubt. The Rosh proves this from the Gemara earlier,
where, in the case of a Shomer who denied owing a Pikadon, the Shomer is not
deemed to be "Huchzak Kafran" as long as witnesses do not testify that they
saw the Pikadon in his possession at the time that he denied having it. As
long as witnesses have not testified to that effect, we give him the benefit
of the doubt and assume that he lost the Pikadon and he is merely trying to
gain more time to find it. Similarly, in the case of our Gemara, too, we
should give the borrower the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is
saying that he does not want to pay merely in order to gain more time. How,
then, can Rashi say that the borrower is "Huchzak Kafran" when he disobeys
the ruling of Beis Din and refuses to pay, in front of witnesses? Perhaps he
is merely stalling for more time!
3. The MILCHEMES MITZVAH and IMREI MAHARSHACH (cited in Otzer ha'Mefarshim)
answer that the proof of the Rosh from the case of the Pikadon does not
apply to our case. Only in the case of one who denies owing a Pikadon do we
give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he is trying to stall for
time, because we assume that he is afraid to say the truth and admit that he
owes the Pikadon, lest the claimant force him to pay immediately. In
contrast, when the defendant does not owe a Pikadon but he merely owes money
from a loan, he could say the truth (that he does not yet have money to pay
back) and he would not be forced to pay right away; he does not have to be
so brazen as to say that he does not want to pay.
4. The Milchemes Mitzvah answers further that in the case of the Pikadon,
when the Gemara says that the Shomer is not a proven liar and thief when he
denies owing the Pikadon (until witnesses testify that they saw the Pikadon
in his possession at the time that he denied having it), the Gemara is
referring to the Shomer's status with regard to his trustworthiness in all
other matters. Once he is proven to have been lying beyond any doubt (i.e.
when witnesses testify that they saw the Pikadon in his possession at the
time that he denied having it), he becomes invalid for all matters of
monetary testimony and trustworthiness. In contrast, in the case of our
Gemara, the borrower who refuses, in front of witnesses, to obey Beis Din
merely becomes "Huchzak Kafran" for *this* loan; he will not be believed
later to claim that he paid back the loan without bringing proof (such as
witnesses) that he paid it. However, he remains trusted with regard to all
other monetary matters. Thus, it takes less to prove him to be a liar in
this case, and that is why he becomes "Huchzak Kafran" -- and we do not
assume that he is trying to gain more time -- when he disobeys Beis Din in
front of two witnesses. (I. Alsheich)
17b
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