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Bava Kama 103
1) SELLING SOLD GOODS
(a) Rav Kahana paid Shimon money to buy his flax; the price
of flax went up, and Shimon sold the flax to others,
stipulating that they will pay Rav Kahana.
(b) Question (Rav Kahana, of Rav): May I take the money?
(c) Answer (Rav): Only if Shimon told the buyer 'This is Rav
Kahana's flax'.
(d) Question: Is this is as the people of Eretz Yisrael who
said, the seller did not know to intend that Reuven
(whose money was given) should acquire!
(e) Answer: No - Rav Kahana did not lend the money, that we
are concerned that (if the buyers were not told, they pay
Shimon and) Shimon pays usury to Rav Kahana;
1. Rather, Rav Kahana owns the flax, it increased in
value by itself.
(f) Question: By selling it, Shimon stole it - the Mishnah
says, all thieves pay as the time of the theft! (Since it
already increased in value, Rav Kahana is entitled to the
money!)
(g) Answer: The case is, Rav Kahana never did Meshichah (to
acquire the flax); he bought on Amana (for the future,
when Shimon will get flax);
1. Rav holds that we may buy on Amana to receive
produce later (when it is worth more), but the
seller may not give its value in money (for this
looks like usury).
2) RETURNING A STOLEN OBJECT
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven stole a Perutah from Shimon and swore
that he did not - Reuven must return it, even if Shimon
lives overseas;
1. It is not enough to give it to his son or messenger,
but it suffices to give it to a messenger of Beis
Din.
(b) If Shimon died, he returns the stolen object to Shimon's
heirs.
(c) In the following cases, Reuven need not travel to return
what he owes:
1. He paid the principle, but did not pay the added
fifth (which he owes because he swore falsely);
2. Shimon pardoned from paying the principle, but not
from the added fifth;
3. Shimon pardoned the entire obligation, except for
less than a Perutah (even) of the principle.
(d) Reuven must travel to return what he owes if he paid or
was pardoned from the added fifth, but not from (at least
a Perutah of) the principle.
(e) If Reuven paid the principle, and (falsely) swore that he
also paid the added fifth, he must pay (the added fifth
and) an additional fifth of the added fifth.
103b---------------------------------------103b
1. Each time he swears falsely about paying a fifth (of
a fifth...) he is obligated to add a fifth of what
he swore about, until the denied money is less than
a Perutah.
(f) The same applies to a deposit - "A deposit or withheld
wages or theft or oppression of his fellowman, or he
found a lost object and denied it or swore falsely, he
pays the principle and an added fifth and brings an
Asham (guilt-offering).
3) AS WHOM IS THE MISHNAH?
(a) (Gemara) Inference: He must travel to return a stolen
object only if he swore falsely about it;
(b) Question: This is not as R. Tarfon, nor as R. Akiva!
1. (Beraisa - R. Tarfon): Reuven stole from 1 of 5
people, he is not sure from which; each of them says
'You stole from me' - he may leave the stolen object
in front of them, he is exempt;
2. R. Akiva says, to correct his sin he must pay each
of them the value of what he stole.
i. Our Mishnah is not as R. Tarfon - he holds,
even if Reuven swore falsely, he may leave the
stolen object in front of them!
ii. It is not as R. Akiva - he holds, even if
Reuven did not swear, he must pay every one of
them!
(c) Answer #1: Really, it is as R. Akiva - he only obligates
him to pay every one of them when he swore falsely.
1. Question: What is his reason?
2. Answer: "To the owner he will give it, on the day of
his guilt" (the verse speaks of one who swore
falsely and brings an Asham);
3. R. Tarfon holds, even though he swore falsely,
Chachamim made an enactment for the thief.
i. (Beraisa - R. Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok): A great
enactment was made - if the cost of returning a
stolen object exceeds the principle, the thief
gives the principle and the added fifth to Beis
Din, and he can bring his Asham and get
atonement.
4. R. Akiva holds that this enactment was only when he
knows whom he stole from, for then the victim can
get his money back;
i. When he stole from 1 of 5 people, we did not
make such an enactment, for then the victim
would not get his money back.
(d) Objection #1 (Rav Huna bar Yehudah - Beraisa - R. Shimon
ben Elazar): R. Tarfon and R. Akiva did not argue
regarding one who bought from 1 of 5 people, he is not
sure from which - all agree, he may leave the money he
owes in front of them;
1. They argue when he stole from 1 of 5 people, he is
not sure from which; each of them says 'You stole
from me' - R. Tarfon says, he may leave the stolen
object in front of them, he is exempt;
2. R. Akiva says, to correct his sin he must pay each
of them the value of what he stole.
3. Summation of question: If he swore falsely, the law
should be the same if he bought or stole (either
way, he sinned)!
(e) Objection #2 (Rava - Beraisa): There was a case of a
Chasid who was not sure from which of 2 men he bought. R.
Tarfon told him, it suffices to leave the money in front
of them;
1. R. Akiva told him, to clear himself he must pay each
of them.
2. Since he was a Chasid, surely he did not swear
falsely!
i. Suggestion: Perhaps he swore falsely, then
repented and became a Chasid!
ii. Rejection: Whenever it says 'there was a case
of a Chasid', this refers to R. Yehudah ben
Bava or R. Yehudah b'Rebbi Ila'i - neither was
a repentant sinner!
(f) Answer #2: Really, it is as R. Tarfon - he admits that he
must pay every one of them when he swore falsely.
1. Question: What is his reason?
2. Answer: "To the owner he will give it, on the day of
his guilt".
i. R. Akiva fines him, even though he did not
swear falsely.
3. Question: The verse speaks of one who admitted his
sin (since he brings a sacrifice) - if so, R. Tarfon
obligates him even if he did not swear!!
i. (Beraisa): R. Tarfon admits by one who admits
to stealing (and wants to clear himself at the
hands of Heaven), but he is not sure from which
of 2 people he stole, that he must pay both of
them.
(g) [Version #1 (our text, Rashi) Answer #3 (Rava): Our
Mishnah (is as both Tana'im, it) is unlike the Beraisa;]
1. [Version #2 (Tosfos) Answer (to question l:3 -
Rava): Our Mishnah (is as R. Tarfon, it) is unlike
the Beraisa;]
2. Since he knows he stole from Shimon, and admitted to
him, it is as if Shimon said 'the stolen object is
as a deposit by you';
i. If Reuven swore, he must travel to return the
stolen object in order to (bring his Asham and)
get atonement;
ii. If he did not swear, since Shimon allows him to
watch the stolen object, he need not travel to
return it
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