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Bava Kama 80
1) RAISING SMALL ANIMALS IN ERETZ YISRAEL
(a) (Beraisa - Talmidim): May one raise (small animals)?
(b) R. Gamliel: Yes.
(c) Question: But the Mishnah forbids this!
(d) Correction: Rather, they asked if one may keep a small
animal for 30 days before the festival;
1. R. Gamliel permitted this, on condition that it does
not graze with the flock; rather, he must tie it to
the bed.
(e) (Beraisa): A man was groaning; doctors said, to be cured
he must suckle milk every morning. They brought a goat
and tied it to his bed; he suckled every morning.
1. One day his friends came and saw the goat; they were
outraged (because goats eat others' property) and
left his house.
2. They could not find another thing he had done wrong;
he himself, as he was dying, confessed that this was
his only transgression, disobeying the decree.
(f) R. Yishmael: My father's house in Galil was destroyed
because they used to graze small animals in forests and
judge monetary cases alone (without a Beis Din of 3).
1. Even though they had forests near their houses,
someone else owned a small field on the way to the
forest.
(g) (Beraisa): A shepherd that repents - he need not sell his
whole flock immediately, he may sell it little by little.
(h) Similarly: a convert who inherited dogs and pigs - he
need not sell them all immediately, he may sell it little
by little.
(i) Similarly: one who vowed to buy a house and marry a woman
in Eretz Yisrael, we do not force him to fulfill this
immediately, he may wait until he finds a suitable house
and wife.
(j) A man was pressuring his mother to get married; she swore
that she would not refuse anyone. She was swarmed with
improper men; Chachamim ruled, she only intended for
someone fitting for her.
2) ANIMALS THAT MAY BE RAISED
(a) (Beraisa): Just as we may not raise small Behemos, also
we may not raise small Chayos.
(b) R. Shimon ben Elazar says, we may raise Kufri (midget;
some say, large hunting) dogs, cats, monkeys, and bush
weasels because they clean the house from mice.
(c) Question: What are bush weasels?
(d) Answer (Rav Yehudah): A rodent with thin (another version
- small) thighs.
(e) [Version #1 (Rav Yehudah citing Rav): In Bavel, we
adopted the law of Eretz Yisrael to forbid raising small
animals.
(f) Rav Ada bar Ahavah (to Rav Huna): Why do you have small
animals?
(g) Rav Huna: My wife Chovah guards them from damaging.
(h) Rav Ada bar Ahavah: She should bury her son!
1. As long as Rav Ada was alive, none of Rav Huna's
children from Chovah survived.]
(i) [Version #2 (Rav Huna): After Rav came to Bavel, we
adopted the law of Eretz Yisrael to forbid raising small
animals.]
(j) Rav, Shmuel and R. Asi went to a circumcision; some say,
to a feast in honor of the redemption of a firstborn. Rav
did not want to enter in front of Shmuel; Shmuel did not
want to enter in front of R. Asi; R. Asi did not want to
enter in front of Rav.
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1. They decided that Shmuel would wait outside.
i. Question: Why not have Rav or R. Asi wait
outside?
ii. Answer: Really, they were both greater than
Shmuel; Rav honored Shmuel and would not enter
in front of Shmuel because he regretted having
once cursed Shmuel.
2. Meanwhile, a cat came and cut off a child's hand.
3. Rav ruled: It is permitted to kill cats, and
forbidden to raise them; there is no prohibition to
steal them, nor a Mitzvah to return a lost cat.
4. Question: If it is permitted to kill them, obviously
it is forbidden to raise them!
5. Answer: One might have thought, it is permitted to
kill them, but there is no prohibition to raise them
- we hear, this is not so.
6. Question: If there is no prohibition to steal them,
obviously there is no Mitzvah to return a lost cat!
7. Answer (Ravina): There is not even a Mitzvah to
return the skin (if one finds it dead).
(k) Question (Beraisa - R. Shimon ben Elazar): We may raise
Kufri dogs, cats, monkeys, and bush weasels because they
clean the house from mice.
(l) Answer: White cats often harm people, they may not be
raised; black cats may be raised.
(m) Question: But the cat in the above story was black!
(n) Answer: It was a black cat born to a white cat.
(o) Question: But Ravina never settled that question!
1. Question (Ravina): May one raise a black cat born to
a white cat?
(p) Answer: Ravina's question was when the cat's grandmother
was black; the grandmother of the cat in the above story
was white.
3) TEACHINGS OF BAR PAPA
(a) (Rav Acha bar Papa (or 1 of his brothers)): We announce
(Rashi - with shofars and trumpets) on Shabbos about
boils, so people will pray; a locked door is not easily
opened; one who buys a house in Eretz Yisrael, the
document of sale may be written on Shabbos.
(b) Question (Beraisa): For other calamities that come, such
as boils, locusts, flies, wasps, mosquitoes, and
invasions of snakes and scorpions, only individuals cry
out in prayer.
(c) Answer: For dry boils, we announce; for moist boils, only
individuals cry out.
1. (R. Yehoshua ben Levi): The boils that Hash-m
brought on the Mitzrim were wet on the outside and
dry on the inside.
i. He learns from "Avabu'os Pore'ach" - they were
moist (only) where they spread (on the
outside).
(d) Question: 'A locked door is not easily opened' - to what
does this refer?
(e) Answer #1 (Mar Zutra): If one was unable to get Semichah
(be ordained as a Rav empowered to give rulings), it will
be hard to get it later.
(f) Answer #2 (Rav Ashi): If Hash-m afflicts someone, He is
not quick to bestow good upon him.
(g) Answer #3 (Rav Acha mi'Difti): (If Hash-m afflicts
someone,) He will never bestow good upon him.
1. This is wrong - Rav Acha only spoke about his own
situation.
(h) Objection: 'One who buys a house in Eretz Yisrael, the
document of sale may be written on Shabbos' - this cannot
be!
(i) Answer: It means, as Rava said (elsewhere) - we tell a
non-Jew to write the document.
1. Even though it is normally forbidden (mid'Rabanan)
to ask a non-Jew to do forbidden labors, Chachamim
did not decree in this case, to facilitate settling
in Eretz Yisrael.
(j) (Rav Shmuel bar Nachmani): One who buys a city in Eretz
Yisrael, we force him to buy paths to it from all 4
directions, to promote settlement of Eretz Yisrael.
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