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Bava Kama 72
1) HOW MUCH MUST HE SLAUGHTER TO BE LIABLE?
(a) (Mishnah): The animal was found to be Treifah...
(b) [Version #1 (R. Chavivi of Chuzna'ah): (From the law that
one is liable for Chulin slaughtered in the Mikdash), we
learn that only the completion of slaughter is considered
slaughter;
1. If the entire act of slaughter is considered
slaughter, the animal is forbidden from the start of
slaughter, the rest of the slaughter was not on the
animal of the original owner!
(c) Objection #1 (Rav Huna brei d'Rava): We can say, he is
liable for the beginning of the slaughter!
1. Rejection (Rav Ashi): "And he slaughtered it"
connotes the entire slaughter.
(d) Objection #2 (Rav Gamda): The case is, he started the
slaughter outside the Mikdash, and completed it in the
Mikdash.]
(e) [Version #2 (Reish Lakish) Only the completion of
slaughter is considered slaughter;
1. (R. Yochanan): The entire act is considered
slaughter.
(f) R. Chavivi of Chuzna'ah: R. Yochanan must hold that the
Torah does not forbid Chulin slaughtered in the Mikdash!
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1. If it was forbidden mid'Oraisa (why does our Mishnah
say he is liable,) the animal is forbidden from the
start of slaughter, the rest of the slaughter was
not on the animal of the original owner!
(g) Objection #1 (R. Acha brei d'Rava): We can say, he is
liable for the beginning of the slaughter!
1. Rejection (Rav Ashi): "And he slaughtered it"
connotes the entire slaughter.
(h) Objection #2 (Rav Gamda): The case is, he started the
slaughter outside the Mikdash, and completed it in the
Mikdash.
2) LIABILITY OF EDIM ZOMEMIM
(a) (Mishnah): Two witnesses testified that Reuven stole and
slaughtered; they were found to be Zomemim (they were not
where they claimed to have seen the testimony) - they pay
the full fine (4 or 5).
(b) Two witnesses testified that Reuven stole, 2 others
testified that he slaughtered, both pairs were Huzmu
(found to be Zomemim) - the first pair pays double
payment for the animal, the second pair pays the
remaining (2 or) 3;
1. If only the second pair was Huzam - Reuven pays
double, the second pair pays (2 or) 3;
2. If only 1 witness was Huzam - if he is from the
second pair, the testimony on the slaughter is void;
3. If he is from the first pair, the whole testimony is
void - if he did not steal the animal, he is allowed
to slaughter it!
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