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Bava Basra 148
1) HOW "MATNAS SHECHIV ME'RA" WORKS (cont.)
(a) Question: But Rava cited Rav Nachman to say that if a
dying man said 'The debt owed to me should be to Ploni',
this takes effect, even though a healthy person cannot do
this!
(b) Answer #1 (Rav Papa): Since Matnas Shechiv me'Ra makes
Ploni the heir (and heirs acquire debts), he acquires the
debt.
(c) Answer #2 (Rav Acha brei d'Rav Ika): A healthy person can
transfer a debt, as Rav Huna taught.
1. (Rav Huna): If Reuven tells Shimon in front of Levi
'You have money of mine - give it to Levi', Levi
acquires it.
2) DOES THE GIVER RETAIN PART OF THE GIFT FOR HIMSELF?
(a) Version #1 - Question: If a dying man gave a date tree to
Yehudah and its fruits to Moshe, what is the law?
1. Version #1A (Rashbam): Do we say that he left the
place the fruits grow from (the branches) for Moshe,
therefore he did not give all his land to Yehudah,
it is not considered a Matnas Shechiv me'Ra?
2. Or, do we say that he gave all his land to Yehudah,
it is a Matnas Shechiv me'Ra?
3. Version #1B (Tosfos): Do we say that he left the
place the fruits grow from for Moshe, therefore
Moshe acquires something already here (and what
grows from it), the gift is valid?
4. Or, did he only leave the fruits that will grow for
Moshe, one cannot transfer ownership of something
that is not yet in the world, the gift is invalid?
(End of Version #1B)
(b) Question: If you will say that he did not leave (place on
the tree) for Moshe, what if he left the fruits for
himself?
(c) Answer (Rava citing Rav Nachman): He left place on the
tree for himself.
(d) Question: What is the reason?
(e) Answer: A person leaves for himself generously.
(f) Version #2 - R. Aba: These questions were asked according
to Reish Lakish!
1. (Reish Lakish): One who sells a house and stipulates
'on condition that the top is mine', the roof is
his.
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1. Question: If he gave a house to Yehudah and the roof
to Moshe, what is the law?
i. (Rashbam): Do we say that he left rights for
Moshe to extend ledges from the roof, or not?
2. Question: If you will say that he did not leave
rights for Moshe, what if he left the roof for
himself?
3. Answer (Rava citing Rav Nachman): He left place on
the tree for himself.
i. This is according to Rav Zvid, who says that (a
roof (surrounded by a 10-Tefachim wall) is not
included when a house is sold even if no
stipulation was made, therefore, when he
stipulates to keep the top,) he reserves the
rights to extend ledges).
(g) (Rav Yosef bar Minyomi): If a dying man wrote all his
property to others: if he intended from the beginning to
give away all his property, they all acquire after he
dies (even though no acquisition was made); if he
recovers, he can retract the whole gift;
1. If he originally intended to keep some of his
property, and (after giving some) later decided to
give the rest, (if they made acquisitions) they all
acquire after he dies (our text, Rambam; Me'iri -
they acquire immediately); if he recovers, he can
only retract the last gift.
(h) Question: (Why can't he retract from the first gifts?
Even if he paused in the middle, perhaps) he intended
from the beginning to give away everything, he paused to
think about what was left to give!
(i) Answer: Presumably, a dying man first thinks about
everything he has to give before he starts giving it.
(j) (Rav Acha bar Minyomi): If a dying man wrote all his
property to others and he recovers, he cannot retract -
we are concerned that he has property abroad (that he did
not give, therefore it is like the gift of a healthy
person).
(k) Question: The Mishnah says, if he did not keep property
for himself, he can retract - why are we not concerned?
(l) Answer #1 (Rav Chama): The case is, he said 'I give all
my property'.
(m) Answer #2 (Mar bar Rav Ashi): The case is, we are Muchzak
that he has no other property.
3) RETRACTING PART OF A "MATNAS SHECHIV ME'RA"; HEKDESH AND HEFKER
(a) Question: (When he may retract,) if he retracted part of
the gift, is this a retraction of the entire gift?
(b) Answer (Beraisa): 'I (Reuven) give all my property to
Ploni, I give some of it to Almoni' - Almoni acquires,
Ploni does not.
1. Suggestion: Almoni acquires after Reuven dies, but
Ploni does not - retracting part of the gift to
Ploni (i.e. what he gave to Almoni) is a retraction
of the entire gift.
(c) Rejection: No, the case is that Reuven recovered (the
gift to Almoni was partial, therefore Reuven cannot
retract from it).
(d) Support: (end of the Beraisa): 'I give some of my
property to Ploni, I give all of it to Almoni' - Ploni
acquires, Almoni does not.
1. We understand why if Reuven recovered he can
retract;
2. But if Reuven died, both should acquire (Reuven gave
all his property - 'I give *all* of it to Almoni',
he meant, the rest)!
(e) Objection (Rav Yemar): Even if the entire Beraisa is when
he recovered, we see that a partial retraction is a full
retraction!
1. If it is a full retraction, this explains why Almoni
acquires;
2. But if it is not a full retraction, Reuven gave all
his property, he can also retract from the gift to
Almoni!
(f) The Halachah is, a partial retraction is a full
retraction.
1. We can explain the first clause whether Reuven died
or recovered; the second clause must be when he
recovered.
(g) Question: If Shimon made all his property Hekdesh, and
recovered, what is the law?
1. Do we say, regarding Hekdesh, a person decides
absolutely to give it (even if he will recover)?
2. Or, do we say that a person never abandons himself
(that he will be left without anything if he
recovers)?
(h) Question: If Shimon made all his property Hefker (and
recovered), what is the law?
1. Do we say, since also poor people can take Hefker,
he decided absolutely to give it?
2. Or, do we say that a person never abandons himself?
(i) Question: If Shimon gave all his property to the poor,
what is the law?
1. Do we say, regarding the Mitzvah of Tzedakah, surely
he decided absolutely to give it?
2. Or, do we say that a person never abandons himself?
(j) These questions are unsettled.
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