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Bava Basra 140
BAVA BASRA 140 (29 Av) - "Mechabdo b'Chayav, Mechabdo b'Moso" (Kidushin
31b). This Daf has been dedicated by Bracha Trebitsch and family l'Iluy
Nishmas her father, Eliezer Shmuel Binyomin ben Mayer Trebitsch, in honor of
his Yahrzeit. T'N'TZ'B'H.
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1) WHAT IS CONSIDERED A LARGE ENOUGH ESTATE?
(a) Question: If there is less than this, do the girls get
everything?!
(b) Answer (Rava): No, we separate enough money to feed the
girls until Bagrus, the boys are fed from the rest.
(c) The following is obvious: If there was 'much' property,
and then it became 'little', the boys already inherited
(Rashbam - we calculate how much everyone was fitting to
receive (at the time of death), everyone receives
(proportionally) according to this - the boys will still
have money after the girls consumed their portion; Rosh -
all are fed until the property runs out);
(d) Question: If there was 'little' property, and then it
became 'much', what is the law?
1. Do we say, the profit goes to the heirs (the girls
are fed until Bagrus, the boys get the rest);
2. Or, do we say that inheritance does not apply here
(we calculate what everyone should have received at
the time of death, all receive accordingly, the
girls keep the excess above what they will eat)?
(e) Answer (R. Asi): If there was little property and the
boys sold it, the sale stands. (This says that they
inherited, they keep the profit).
(f) Version #1 - Question #1 (R. Yirmeyah of R. Avahu; also,
all the coming questions): In determining whether there
is much or little property, do we consider that the widow
is also fed from the estate?
1. Since she is also fed, we take this into
consideration;
2. Or, since if she will remarry, she is no longer fed,
we do not take this into consideration.
(g) Question #2: If you will say, since if she will remarry,
she is no longer fed, we do not take her into
consideration, do we take into consideration if the
husband accepted to feed his wife's daughter (e.g. from a
prior husband)?
1. Since she is fed even if she will remarry, we take
this into consideration;
2. Or, since it is possible that she will not be fed
the entire time (she might die), we do not take this
into consideration.
(h) Question #3: If you will say, since she may die, we do
not take her into consideration, do we take into
consideration if the husband left a creditor?
1. Since even if he dies, the debt will be collected
(by his heirs), we take this into consideration;
2. Or, since he has not yet collected the debt, we do
not take this into consideration.
(i) Version #2 - Question #1: Do we take into consideration
if the husband left a creditor? (The sides of the
question are like above.)
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(j) Question #2: (If you will say, since the debt will be
collected even if he dies, we take this into
consideration,) do we take into consideration if the
husband accepted to feed his wife's daughter?
(k) Question #3: (If you will say, since she is fed even if
she will remarry, we take her into consideration,) do we
consider that the widow is also fed from the estate? (End
of Version #2)
(l) Question: If there is not enough food to feed the widow
and the daughter, which has precedence?
(m) Answer (to the last question -R. Avahu): A widow with
respect to a daughter is like a daughter with respect to
a son: if there is little property, the daughters are fed
and the sons beg;
1. Likewise, the widow is fed and the daughter begs for
her food.
2) WHY DO SONS LOSE?
(a) (Mishnah): Admon says, why should I lose, because I am a
male?!
(b) Question: What does this mean?
(c) Answer #1 (Abaye): Why should I lose, because I am a male
and fit to learn Torah?!
(d) Objection (Rava): Will you say that only one who learns
Torah should inherit?!
(e) Answer #2 (Rava): Rather, because I am a male and fit to
inherit when there is much property, why should I lose
when there is little property?!
3) HOW A TUMTUM INHERITS
(a) (Mishnah): A man died, leaving sons, daughters, and a
Tumtum (one whose genitals are covered, we do not know
his (or her) gender): if there is much property, the
Tumtum does not inherit, the boys say 'you are with the
girls';
1. If there is little property, the Tumtum is not fed
(with the girls), they say 'you are with the boys'.
(b) If a (dying) man (or healthy man who asked someone else
to acquire on behalf of his child to be born) said 'If my
wife will give birth to a male, he should receive 100
Zuz' - we fulfill his words;
1. 'If she will give birth to a female, she should
receive 200' - we fulfill this;
2. 'If she will give birth to a male, he should receive
100; if to a female, she should receive 200' - if
she gave birth to both, each receives as stipulated;
i. If she gave birth to a Tumtum, he does not
receive.
ii. If he said 'Whatever she will give birth to,
the baby should receive' - even a Tumtum
receives.
3. If there are no other children, a Tumtum inherits
his parents.
(c) (Gemara) Inference: (If there is much property,) the
Tumtum does not inherit, the boys say 'you are with the
girls' - and he is fed like a girl.
(d) Contradiction (end of the Mishnah): If she gave birth to
a Tumtum, he does not receive (because a Tumtum is
neither male nor female)!
(e) Answer #1 (Abaye): The boys say 'you are with the girls'
- but the Tumtum does not receive like a girl.
(f) Answer #2 (Rava): Indeed, the Tumtum is fed like a girl;
1. The end of the Mishnah is like R. Shimon ben
Gamliel.
2. (Mishnah): (An animal was about to give birth for
the first time; the owner said 'If the fetus inside
is a male, it is an Olah; if it is a female, it is a
Shelamim'.) If it gave birth to a Tumtum or
Androginus, it has no Kedushah.
(g) Question (Beriasa): A Tumtum inherits like a son and is
fed like a daughter.
1. This is not difficult for Rava - a Tumtum inherits
like a son when there is little property, he is fed
like a daughter when there is much property.
2. But according to Abaye, he is never fed like a
daughter!
3. Counter-question: Even according to Rava, what does
it mean 'A Tumtum inherits like a son'? (This
implies, even a large amount - according to Rava, he
never receives more than the cost of food until
Bagrus.)
4. Answer: We must say, it means he is *fitting* to
inherit like a son, but he does not;
(h) Answer: Also here, he is *fitting* to be fed like a
daughter, but he is not.
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