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Bava Basra 107
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1) A BROTHER THAT LOST PART OF HIS SHARE
(a) (Rav): Brothers divided, a creditor (of their father)
took the portion of one brother - the division is void.
(b) (Shmuel): That brother lost, he is not compensated.
(c) (Rav Asi): That brother gets a quarter of what was taken,
in land (Rashbam - or; Tosfos - and a quarter) in money.
1. Rav says that the division is void, we consider that
each brother inherited his proper share, all must
pay the debt;
2. Shmuel says that the brother lost, we consider the
brothers like buyers (they allow each other to take
a share in place of what (Hash-m knows that) he
should have inherited) without Acharayos;
3. Rav Asi in unsure whether they are like heirs or
like buyers (Tosfos - with Acharayos), and
therefore we compromise and he gets a quarter in
land or (Tosfos - and a quarter) in money.
(d) (Rav Papa): The Halachah is, in this and the previous
argument, the brothers give a portion of their property
(they are heirs, like Rav; the division is valid, like
Shmuel (106B));
(e) (Ameimar): The division is invalid (like Rav).
(f) The Halachah follows Ameimar.
2) VARYING ESTIMATIONS
(a) (Beraisa): Three came to appraise orphans' property: one
said 100 (Zuz), the others said 200, or vice-versa - we
follow the majority;
1. If one said 100, another said 80, the third said 120
- we adopt 100;
2. R. Eliezer b'Rebbi Tzadok says, we adopt 90 (we will
explain the opinions);
3. Others say, we take a third of the difference
between the extreme positions (40) and add it to the
lowest opinion.
4. The first opinion adopts 100 - this is the average
of the extreme positions (Rambam; Rashbam - it is
the intermediate opinion);
5. R. Eliezer b'Rebbi Tzadok says 90 - we assume that
it is really worth 90;
107b---------------------------------------107b
i. The opinions that said 80 and 100 each erred by
10 (only one of them, the third opinion, made a
large error).
ii. Question: Why not say, it is really worth 110;
the opinions that said 100 and 120 each erred
by 10!
iii. Answer: Since we are unsure which of these is
true, we follow the smaller amount.
6. Others say, we take a third of the difference
between the extreme positions and add it to the
lowest opinion.
i. We assume that it is really worth 93 and one
third; the opinion that said 80 erred by 13 and
one third;
ii. The opinion that said 100 also erred by 13 1/3;
he did not say 106 2/3, for de did not want to
sound too much higher than the previous
opinion.
iii. Question: Why not say, it is really worth 113
1/3; the opinions that said 100 erred by 13
1/3; the opinion that said 120 also erred by 13
1/3; he did not say 126 2/3, for de did not
want to sound too much higher than the others!
iv. Answer: Since we are unsure which of these is
true, we follow the smaller amount.
(b) (Rav Huna): The Halachah follows 'Others'.
(c) Objection (Rav Ashi): Their reason is unreasonable, does
the Halachah follow them?!
(d) (Judges of Bavel (Shmuel and Karna)): We take a third of
the difference between the extreme positions and add it
to the lowest opinion.
(e) (Rav Huna): The Halachah follows Judges of Bavel.
(f) Objection (Rav Ashi): Their reason is unreasonable, does
the Halachah follow them?!
3) WHICH HALF THE BUYER RECEIVES
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven told Shimon 'I sell to you half of a
field' - Meshamnim (we divide according to the Shumen
(fatness) of the land - every clause of the Mishnah will
be explained later), Shimon takes half a field;
(b) 'I sell to you half of a field in the south' - Meshamnim,
Shimon takes half in the south.
(c) He (Rashbam - Reuven; Rambam - Shimon) accepts to provide
the place for the fence, a ditch six Tefachim wide, and a
secondary ditch three Tefachim wide.
(d) (Gemara - R. Chiya bar Aba citing R. Yochanan): The buyer
takes the weaker half of the land.
(e) Question (R. Chiya bar Aba): But the Mishnah says
Meshamnim (each gets half the good land)!
1. Counter-question (R. Yochanan - second clause of the
Mishnah): 'I sell to you half of a field in the
south' - Meshamnim, Shimon takes half in the south
(whether it is good or not)!
2. Answer (R. Yochanan): You must say, Meshamnim means,
the calculation of half the land is not according to
area, rather, according to value;
(f) Answer (R. Yochanan): Also in the first clause, it means
that Shimon gets land worth as much as what Reuven keeps.
(I only taught that Reuven can choose to keep the highest
quality land.)
4) THE DITCHES OUTSIDE THE FENCE
(a) (Mishnah): He accepts to provide the place for the
fence...
(b) (Beraisa): Both ditches are outside the fence; the
secondary ditch is closer to the fence;
1. The ditches are to prevent a Nemiyah (marten) from
jumping over the fence.
(c) Question: Why isn't a (regular) ditch enough?
(d) Answer: Since it is wide, the marten can jump from the
bottom of it.
(e) Question: Why isn't a secondary ditch enough?
(f) Answer: Since it is thin, the marten can jump from
outside of it.
(g) Question: How much must he leave between the two ditches?
(h) Answer: One Tefach.
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